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  • thibodba57
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    I'm sure I'll be going at it more and more to find that right mix. But I like how this one turned out for the most part. The paint still has that, out of heavy check look, but they didn't want to bother with the expense of polishing the metal. I mean, it is a freighter after all. :-)
    You can see this by comparing the shine of the sun on the metal vs on the paint.

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  • thibodba57
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    While I'm still stewing on my Clipper logo for PanAm I decided my luck at knocking down the polish on Northwest. The nose is non-polished and aft the logo you can see the polished finish. So will probably release non-polished variants of my metal as well when all is done.

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  • krodgers
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    Originally posted by thibodba57 View Post

    Fixed. Will have it for Brian N to replace the download on Avsim. Also redid the Cargo text to closer match the real aircraft as it seems to utilize two different fonts.

    [NWA Cargo Image Removed to Save Space]
    I've been looking at a lot of these PBR images like...

    tenor.gif

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  • thibodba57
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    Originally posted by Jet Tech View Post
    Ok, That NWA Cargo Livery is insanely good. That honestly looks like a photograph. Fantastic
    Thank you. Still one more update to push out. I just keep forgetting to get with BN to update the download. Just a small alignment issue.

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  • Jet Tech
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    Ok, That NWA Cargo Livery is insanely good. That honestly looks like a photograph. Fantastic

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  • stopnicki
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    Steve and Brian:

    Today (I know, I know, but we were away) I downloaded the Atlas Air and immediately flew it for a couple of hours, via VATSIM, from rainy Detroit to snowy Montreal.

    I spent most of the time "outside" enjoying the infinite reflections of ... everything ... on the surfaces of the aircraft.

    The result of your efforts, is simply magnificent.

    I can only imagine the wonderful surprises that the future will bring, as you get more acquainted with PBR.

    Congratulations (and thank you!) for a job very well done!

    Roberto

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  • thibodba57
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    Originally posted by CaptKornDog View Post
    The top of the "W" and "E" should be touching, by the way, on the Northwest logo.

    http://a4.pbase.com/o4/04/1904/1/555...hwestCargo.jpg
    Fixed. Will have it for Brian N to replace the download on Avsim. Also redid the Cargo text to closer match the real aircraft as it seems to utilize two different fonts.

    nwa fix.jpg

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  • ToddL
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    Originally posted by thibodba57 View Post
    Finishing up the PanAm cargo paint before I just port it over onto the Pax model. This one is a tad trickier as the belly metal and engines need to match, but doing so has caused a couple other things just not to look right at certain times of day. Anyways....closer.

    Looks great Brian! Anxiously waiting for this one. Thanks for the Northwest livery as well. It's spectacular as is your Maddog thermometer. Have you considered the all bare metal scheme with "Northwest" or "Northwest Orient" stenciled in red only? That's about as bare metal as you can get! Please keep up the great work and thanks again.

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  • CaptKornDog
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    The top of the "W" and "E" should be touching, by the way, on the Northwest logo.

    http://a4.pbase.com/o4/04/1904/1/555...hwestCargo.jpg

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  • thibodba57
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    Finishing up the PanAm cargo paint before I just port it over onto the Pax model. This one is a tad trickier as the belly metal and engines need to match, but doing so has caused a couple other things just not to look right at certain times of day. Anyways....closer.

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  • dehowie
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    Both paints are incredible mate a big well done on getting the metal reflecting the way it should. Great work..

    Darren Howie
    Last edited by dehowie; 07Apr2019, 11:31.

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  • thibodba57
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    I released both my Metal paints. You can download them from Avsim. If you find something off let me know and I'll evaluate if I can easily fix it.
    https://library.avsim.net/search.php...root&Go=Search

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  • thibodba57
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post
    OK. I turned off the shadow layer. I've applied a light blue color to the parts to make them look like metal. All to no avail. It still shows up as an off white or gray no matter what I do. Yeah, PBR looks great but getting the metal look has proven difficult, at least to me. (I know creating the shiny metal look was a lot easier on the DC-6 aircraft which had a spec layer included in the paint kit.)

    If I'm in the wrong forum for assistance, please kindly point me in the right direction. I'd really like to master this.
    Just got back home yesterday evening and I can make a better reply. You adjust the Red Channel the same way you would adjust any layer. Move the tab to Channels, there you will see RGB, Red, Green, Blue and Alpha. Select the Red channel. Select the color you want to modify, in this case Steve and I found around #dedede works pretty well for a representation of bare metal. We use #0d0d0d for painted areas. I use pure black for Stickers and static ports to make them stand out more also. Editing a channel is no different than any layer except you are doing it in grey scale. Heres a link to an example of what we use for bare metal.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ti1wdv3pk5...ample.zip?dl=0

    Heres a link to a post I made regarding quick bare metal. Its not pretty honestly, but you can see how a light blue color can turn out with a proper Metallic Red Channel.
    https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...=7263#post7263

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  • PC Pilot
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    OK. I turned off the shadow layer. I've applied a light blue color to the parts to make them look like metal. All to no avail. It still shows up as an off white or gray no matter what I do. Yeah, PBR looks great but getting the metal look has proven difficult, at least to me. (I know creating the shiny metal look was a lot easier on the DC-6 aircraft which had a spec layer included in the paint kit.)

    If I'm in the wrong forum for assistance, please kindly point me in the right direction. I'd really like to master this.

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  • PC Pilot
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    Thanks, Brian.

    Sorry for the bonehead question, but how do I adjust the Red Channel. I see it, I can get to it, but I'm not sure how one adjust it in PhotoShop (I'm using the older version of PS - CS6 Extended).

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  • thibodba57
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post
    There is a layered texture "aluminum" I added in an attempt to make it look more like metal. Here is the normal layers screenshot:
    Ok first, turn off the shadows, they aren't doing you any good on any of the painted files. Secondly, Try not to use white as your guide for metal. Use a light grey or I prefer light blue, think I have an example up above. Give that a shot and see what you get. From there it will be modifications of your Metallic Red Channel until you get the right metallic properties. You can stick with white, but you are going to end up with a very very very bright metallic color, and I don't think theres a single plane out there polished that can match what you'll see.

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  • PC Pilot
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    There is a layered texture "aluminum" I added in an attempt to make it look more like metal. Here is the normal layers screenshot:

    Metal Channels 02.jpg

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  • PC Pilot
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    Sure thing. Hopefully this will help: Metal Channels 01.jpg

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  • thibodba57
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post
    Thanks, Brian for responding.

    I am using PhotoShop and I do see the channels tab along with the alpha. I am using the PW engine PSD file. When I select the Red layer in the channels tab I don't see any adjustments. I've tinkered with the engine PSD but can't seem to get the cowls to be bare metal: it's always an off white color. So maybe the issue is being able to turn off the engine cowl color or changing it to a metal color.

    Any insight or help you provide is appreciated
    A few screen shots of your normal paint file and the Metallic file Red Channel if you please.

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  • PC Pilot
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    Thanks, Brian for responding.

    I am using PhotoShop and I do see the channels tab along with the alpha. I am using the PW engine PSD file. When I select the Red layer in the channels tab I don't see any adjustments. I've tinkered with the engine PSD but can't seem to get the cowls to be bare metal: it's always an off white color. So maybe the issue is being able to turn off the engine cowl color or changing it to a metal color.

    Any insight or help you provide is appreciated

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  • thibodba57
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post
    Thanks for the info. I'm attempting to create a metal shine for the engines but there doesn't seem to be any way to adjust the "red" channel. Is there a new paint kit I should be using? I thought the paint kits contained a "spec" layer but I'm not seeing it.
    The Engine base metallic file can be found in the base 747-400 common folder for the engine variant you want. I think thats how its laid out if I recall. I'm actually away from my Desktop until Friday evening UTC. Or if you have that file and you are still having issues reaching the Red Channel this could be due to the program you are using. Photoshop is pretty simple, its in the same tab as the Layers just select the channel tab, if you are using Paintshop, Steve Dra is the one to ask.

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  • PC Pilot
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    Thanks for the info. I'm attempting to create a metal shine for the engines but there doesn't seem to be any way to adjust the "red" channel. Is there a new paint kit I should be using? I thought the paint kits contained a "spec" layer but I'm not seeing it.

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  • Ausflight
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    Pure skill awesome.
    Regards.

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  • Aviationgeek
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    Tremendous omg but one thing the plane on the pics looks like its on the ground?

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  • Swaluver88
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    Hmmm i never knew that. Great to hear. Now if i can seem to find a way to paint and not quit and throw my keyboard across the room that would great too

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  • thibodba57
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    First time trying to get the engines to mix with the fuse. Idk why but this is driving me nuts. Maybe I'm over thinking it and they blend well enough. I just can't get to the point where I'm happy with them. Clippers here we go. First up will be the Freighter because the metal is done, but it will be an easy transition for this on the Pax bird. So Clipper Bald Eagle is first then Clipper Juan Trippe. Think Steve was talking TWA.

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  • rsrandazzo
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    Wow!

    Nice work, you guys.

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  • PatriceJBT
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    Beautiful work.

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  • cgsmithmo
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    Looks amazing Brian!!!

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  • thibodba57
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    Steve's busy today so we haven't gotten together to talk about. Well anything. So decided to take a flight PANC-KJFK. Sunset shot came out pretty decent.

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