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    Originally posted by cheesysims View Post
    Belly and underwing alignment done, need to adjust the fuselage according to the belly now... THIS IS FUN! 😩

    PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N918WN-IllinoisOne_2020_preview03.jpg

    Those who don't paint won't really appreciate what you have to do to make this paint look right. 🤔

    Hey Daniel,
    How many texture maps are you trying to align in this part of the plane? (Hint to everyone: more than 2)
    How many compound curves near map boarders are you working with? (Hint to everyone: many, hehe)
    How many times have you re-loaded this paint into ModelconverterX to gauge you progress? (Hint to everyone: more than a thousand) 😲
    How many times have you had to tell folks that the wheel textures are checkerboards because you're viewing it in a 3d model program vs the sim?🤣

    Painting can be very fun...but the part Daniel is doing now is very tedious and always frustrating!
    Regards, Steve Dra
    Click here to download my paints

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    • cheesysims
      cheesysims commented
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      The best part: I have to do this all again for the starboard side as it's slightly different in layout!

      Hey Steve,
      There are 4-5 texture maps which need to be aligned.
      I won't count the compound borders, many fits pretty well!
      As this is pixel pushing, uhm after every change and there have been many already!
      It's so much faster viewing the model in ModelconverterX vs the sim, saves a lot of time.

      I love the tedious and always frustrating parts when painting, they make you feel alive... xD

    Daniel, awesome work

    I did a lot of Flight Factor 777s including The Lord of the Rings liveries in X Plane. I feel your pain with the blending

    Best of luck with it and I look forward to seeing your LH jumbo at some point when the guys are back in at work. I've seen a couple of 748s en route to ORD, LAX and Mexico City

    All the best

    Adrian Howe
    Adrian Howe

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      If you wondered where I have been the past months, there were some minor issues with my liveries.
      Short to say, the last 2 liveries I worked on were either repainted or phased out:

      SWA - N918WN Illinois One - repainted white and ferried to Everett on 2nd Sep 2020 still being there!
      https://www.instagram.com/p/CFze3yuBzVZ/

      TUI - D-AHXG - phased out and ferried to Abu Dhabi 20th Oct 2020
      https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...-ahxg#25cf294b

      Most of my 737 liveries now got cockpit updates to be compatible with P3Dv5 and some reflection errors on the wing leading edges were fixed.
      Compatibility with P3Dv5.1 will be checked as soon as the NGXu is supporting the platform. The P3Dv5 updates will be rolled out as soon as this is confirmed.

      What's next then?
      SWA - N714CB - Southwest Classic
      SWA - N922WN - Tennessee One

      Still a long way to go as you can see below. All WIP, so please ignore the wrong reflextion maps. 😅
      As before, I will be shoving in as much details as possible.

      PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N714CB_2020_preview01.jpg

      PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuSSW_SWA_N922WN_2020_preview01.jpg
      Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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        Work on the tail is mostly finished

        PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N714CB_2020_preview02.jpg
        Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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          Hey Daniel quick question as I am still learning: why do you adapt the reflexion map for painted areas? I understand metallic and non metallic surfaces but does it make that much difference when you adjust different parts of of the livery (the southwest title in your example).
          Thanks for helping me out.
          [email protected] Pletsch

          Postnigs with typnig errors since 1984

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            Originally posted by Mad_X View Post
            Hey Daniel quick question as I am still learning: why do you adapt the reflexion map for painted areas? I understand metallic and non metallic surfaces but does it make that much difference when you adjust different parts of of the livery (the southwest title in your example).
            Thanks for helping me out.
            Sometimes on different liveries (may be old or new) different titles reflect the sunlight differently so any good painter would reflect this on their livery too
            Alex Farmer A.K.A Goldstar Textures

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              Originally posted by Mad_X View Post
              Hey Daniel quick question as I am still learning: why do you adapt the reflexion map for painted areas? I understand metallic and non metallic surfaces but does it make that much difference when you adjust different parts of of the livery (the southwest title in your example).
              Thanks for helping me out.
              Also add in dirt reduces reflectivity of paint
              Alex Farmer A.K.A Goldstar Textures

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                Thank you, Alex! Couldn’t have said it better.
                It’s just basic physics: Different colors reflect the light differently, no matter what they are painted on. Dirt has to be considered here, too. The more dirt, the less the reflection.

                To get it right, you need to know how the material and reflections work.

                Metallic map - normal:
                green color: base reflection
                orange color: metallic reflection

                Metallic map alpha:
                white color: less reflective surface
                black color: high reflective surface

                Just took a photo of a door at the company I work as an live example. It’s the same wood veneer in black and white. Even if the material is the same, the reflection is different, just because of the color.

                E6908E0B-FFA9-4AF7-8A75-DA67F1D13F69.jpeg
                Last edited by cheesysims; 05Nov2020, 13:38.
                Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                  Danke Daniel

                  I guess I have to start playing with the metallic stuff sooner or later.
                  As you and Alex are definitely two of the guys who have dialed in the PBR (which is not just shininess ).

                  Any recommendations on how to achieve a metallic paint effect like you did for your Southwest Daniel?
                  [email protected] Pletsch

                  Postnigs with typnig errors since 1984

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                    Originally posted by Mad_X View Post
                    Any recommendations on how to achieve a metallic paint effect like you did for your Southwest Daniel?
                    I don’t have a guide on how to properly do it. It mostly is trial and error with the metallic maps until it looks like it should look like.

                    Cutting the fuselage in sections and comparing different gradients of green, orange and their corresponding alpha channels is the way I mostly go. When done, it can be reused and adapted for other callsigns of that airline.

                    That’s the reason why I’m super slow compared to other painters out there.
                    Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                      Originally posted by cheesysims View Post
                      That’s the reason why I make some of the best liveries out there.
                      I corrected that for you

                      I will have a go as I want to have a slightly glittering gold stripe on my fuselage.
                      [email protected] Pletsch

                      Postnigs with typnig errors since 1984

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                        Originally posted by Mad_X View Post

                        I corrected that for you

                        I will have a go as I want to have a slightly glittering gold stripe on my fuselage.
                        Looks like I missed that, thanks for correcting.
                        The metallic flake effect took me nearly 3 weeks of constant trial and error 😅

                        As we speak of metallic: The paint somehow slowly is peeling off these Southwest jets...

                        PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N714CB_2020_preview03.jpg
                        Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                          Originally posted by Mad_X View Post
                          Danke Daniel

                          I guess I have to start playing with the metallic stuff sooner or later.
                          As you and Alex are definitely two of the guys who have dialed in the PBR (which is not just shininess ).

                          Any recommendations on how to achieve a metallic paint effect like you did for your Southwest Daniel?
                          Change the alpha channel of the metallic file to slightly brighter and use the noise filter to give the desired flaky effect.
                          Weston Hall

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                            Originally posted by cheesysims View Post
                            Thank you, Alex! Couldn’t have said it better.
                            It’s just basic physics: Different colors reflect the light differently, no matter what they are painted on. Dirt has to be considered here, too. The more dirt, the less the reflection.

                            To get it right, you need to know how the material and reflections work.

                            Metallic map - normal:
                            green color: base reflection
                            orange color: metallic reflection

                            Metallic map alpha:
                            white color: less reflective surface
                            black color: high reflective surface

                            Just took a photo of a door at the company I work as an live example. It’s the same wood veneer in black and white. Even if the material is the same, the reflection is different, just because of the color.

                            E6908E0B-FFA9-4AF7-8A75-DA67F1D13F69.jpeg
                            Red Channel would be your metallic channel so brighter would tell the sim to render it more metallic.
                            Green = Ambient occlusion (this really wouldn't change much from livery to livery)
                            Alpha = reflectivity (how pinned or scattered the light is on surface. white would be most black would be scattered completely)
                            Weston Hall

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                              So I played around with the reflections a bit on the "SWA - Classic One". The golden parts now got some neat effects and metallic reflections.
                              Interior work is already finished, we got some nice old style SWA blue and yellow seats here.

                              Should hopefully be done with pixel pushing sometime in November...
                              Tennessee One and some Canyon Blue liveries to follow!

                              PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N714CB_2020_preview04.jpg
                              Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                This might be the last preview of N714CB
                                On blocks at KDEN, ETA: November 2020

                                E99A9554-562D-44A5-88FB-2BD18F02ED7E.jpeg
                                Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                  Love your outstanding work on the Southwest jets!
                                  Brian Swintal
                                  https://fsai-repaints.com/

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                                    Originally posted by rampantfox View Post
                                    Love your outstanding work on the Southwest jets!
                                    Thank you Brian.

                                    Credits go out to my SWA pilots and ramp teams, too.
                                    It wouldn't be possible to create my liveries and add all these details without them.

                                    Time for a double feature on the Desert Gold!

                                    PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_preview01.jpg
                                    Last edited by cheesysims; 12Nov2020, 00:38.
                                    Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                    • micstatic
                                      micstatic commented
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                                      another beauty Daniel. Well done. Have you ever done any Delta paints?

                                    • WN737
                                      WN737 commented
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                                      I just flew this bird, looking good, are you using shaders, it looks a hair dark

                                    • cheesysims
                                      cheesysims commented
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                                      Haven't thought about Delta, yet.

                                      The gold is based on a mix of several photos made on cloudy and sunny days, so it should match the real color. My P3D got most shadows activated, so that may cause the dark look. No shaders applied, just basic P3Dv5.

                                    Updating my liveries might take a bit longer...
                                    If you wonder why there are these blue parts on the Desert Gold livery: I just figured out the NGXu is missing the rivets and lines around the pitot tubes, so it's my task to add them. Silly details, yeey! 🥳

                                    Apart from that I changed the cockpit window frame and added some doubler plates around the door. More to follow!

                                    PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_preview02.jpg
                                    Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                      Fantastic attention to detail Daniel

                                      Adrian Howe
                                      Adrian Howe

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                                      • cheesysims
                                        cheesysims commented
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                                        Thank you Adrian!
                                        Details are the most important thing in my opinion to create a perfect immersion.

                                      • Extra300driver
                                        Extra300driver commented
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                                        Ja, genau!!

                                      SWA | N711HK - The Herbert D. Kelleher | 2020 livery is close to being finished and uploaded!

                                      PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_02.jpg PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_12.jpg PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_09.jpg PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_14.jpg

                                      The full set of 21 screenshots on my Facebook Page.
                                      Stay tuned!
                                      Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                        Originally posted by cheesysims View Post
                                        SWA | N711HK - The Herbert D. Kelleher | 2020 livery is close to being finished and uploaded!

                                        PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_02.jpg PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_12.jpg PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_09.jpg PMDG_NGXu737-700NGXuBW_SWA_N711HK_2020_14.jpg

                                        The full set of 21 screenshots on my Facebook Page.
                                        Stay tuned!
                                        Don't go raising the gear on the ground there
                                        Alex Farmer A.K.A Goldstar Textures

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                                          Originally posted by AlexFarmer View Post

                                          Don't go raising the gear on the ground there
                                          Not aiming to raise the gear off the ground, it's the bar I'm going for! 😝

                                          So I've been working on something in the background quite some time now. (Gladly we got a 2nd lockdown, so there's time to do it!)
                                          I scraped some money together to create a small website, BIG SURPRISE!

                                          You don't need to search the web or my varouis drives for liveries anymore.
                                          Not sure if all liveries will make it, but most of my stuff will hopefully soon be available here:

                                          www.cheesysimulations.com

                                          All in one place, no fees, no force donation, just click and download.
                                          Maybe I'll add a donate button somwehre at a remote location, we'll see...

                                          In the meantime here's a preview: It's blue, it's a 737, but totally different to a SWA livery.

                                          Playing a little guessing game:
                                          1. What Airport is it?
                                          2. Which parking spot am I parked at?
                                          3. What livery is this going to be?
                                          4. Which airline operates this aircraft?
                                          5. What's the registration?
                                          6. Which airline operated this one before?

                                          2020-11-21_17-25-44-392.jpg
                                          Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                          • Airway88
                                            Airway88 commented
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                                            1. Looks like EDDV
                                            2. Cargo parking spot?
                                            3. Maybe a Prime Air Europe
                                            4. ASL Airlines
                                            5. EI-DAD eventually it can be EI-DAC since that one is new to the fleet now.
                                            6. Ryanair

                                            Nice webpage! Look forward to it to be operational so we can get all paints in one spot!

                                          • Mad_X
                                            Mad_X commented
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                                            Yes to everything Airways has said.

                                          Pretty close, but not 100% right.
                                          1. EDDK (3rd biggest cargo hub in Germany)
                                          2. GATE B22
                                          3. Prime Air Europe
                                          4. ASL Airlines Ireland
                                          5. 737-8AS(BCF) EI-DAD, EI-DAC to follow short after
                                          6. Ryanair

                                          Here she is at LEMD:
                                          222F6AE6-86DB-440F-8A67-8982C57AC426.jpeg
                                          Last edited by cheesysims; 23Nov2020, 12:46.
                                          Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                            For those who interested: Both Ex Ryanair. -DAD based in Cologne(EDDK) and -DAC based in Leipzig (EDDP).
                                            [email protected] Pletsch

                                            Postnigs with typnig errors since 1984

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                                              Originally posted by Mad_X View Post
                                              For those who interested: Both Ex Ryanair. -DAD based in Cologne(EDDK) and -DAC based in Leipzig (EDDP).
                                              For those even more interested: both planes look pretty much the same but got big differences in the details! 😉
                                              Some painters would release the livery as it is. Paint is smacked on, DONE! I just started adding dirt, reworking the bump maps, adding and tweaking the details,...

                                              PMDG_NGXu737-800NGXuBCF_ABR_EI-DAD_2020_preview03.jpg
                                              Cheers, Daniel Fürnkäß

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                                              • Mad_X
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                                                If that is light dirt to you, count me in .
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