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    #1

    Autopilot Pitch control not working

    Anyone else experiencing this problem that may of come across a solution? I can spin the pitch wheel in both directions but the trim wheel looks like its locked?
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    #2
    Yes. It doesn't seem to be working correctly.
    I tried again yesterday and it seemed to work for a short while then it started doing what you describe...lock the trim wheel to something. This is without the altitude hold switched on; just the Gyropilot and autopilot lever.
    Richard Chafey
    Ardent practitioner of the mythology of bogosity
    P3Dv4.x, X-Plane 11.x --- PMDG 777, 747, 737, DC-6, JS4100

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      #3
      AP pitch is not working and gps looks half-screen. I haven't been playing for a long time and made a try. Still unplayable
      version is 2.0.42
      Cenk C.Demir

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      • spesimen
        #3.1
        spesimen commented
        05Feb2023, 20:08
        Editing a comment
        current version is 2.0.46
      • cenkcnk
        #3.2
        cenkcnk commented
        07Feb2023, 05:45
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        spesimen, thanks for the heads up. But I don't see an update in the msfs in-game menu. Gotta wait for it to drop then
      • spesimen
        #3.3
        spesimen commented
        07Feb2023, 20:17
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        ah yes hopefully they will release it soon, it's been out for a week on pc. fixes a lot of stuff related to the gps/autopilot etc
      #4
      Hi! Just checking here - at DC-6 version 2.0.46 (bought via PMDG if that matters), we're still at gyropilot pitch wheel not working, right?
      Dan Tilert
      MSFS2020
      Possibly relevant computer specs: i7-9700K, RTX 3090, 64 GB RAM, Win11, Honecomb Alpha + Bravo, Thrustmaster pedals, HP Reverb G2

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        #5
        Please try cycling the GP from HDG to LOC and back. If that doesn’t fix it, please try selecting NO GPS and then back to GPS.

        I have not experienced this issue. Let us know if any of this helps please!
        Best- Carl Avari-Cooper

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          #6
          I haven‘t had this problem either but I had problems in other aircraft that were solved when I removed other aircraft addons from the community folder. Maybe worth a try.
          Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX4080, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k
          Marc Eland
          GFO Beta

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            #7
            Originally posted by Ephedrin View Post
            I haven‘t had this problem either but I had problems in other aircraft that were solved when I removed other aircraft addons from the community folder. Maybe worth a try.
            I've had a similar problem. I loaded the DC-6 with the Bendix radios selected. Couldn't get the Sperry to work right until I selected then unselected the GNS-430. Just an example of latency in the WASM scripting code.... a very sloppy way to create an application on the part of Asobo.
            Dan Downs KCRP
            i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti
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              #8
              Well what do you know, it worked! I guess.

              I usually fly with no GPS. Now I started a flight and before I did much of anything else I switched to GPS and then removed it again. Indeed, the gyropilot pitch wheel (and the gyropilot) worked the whole flight! Maybe, possibly, it doesn't function in exactly the same way as before in Approach mode, I seem to remember it turning onto runway heading a bit earlier than now, but it doesn't matter. It also turns out I haven't flown the DC-6 in quite a while - because of the gyropilot problems - so apparently I've forgotten how to start the engines even using the flight engineer. So, it's entirely plausible I've also forgotten how/when the GP turns in approach mode.

              But as I saud, no matter. One of my absolute favorites is flyable again. Thank you very much!
              Dan Tilert
              MSFS2020
              Possibly relevant computer specs: i7-9700K, RTX 3090, 64 GB RAM, Win11, Honecomb Alpha + Bravo, Thrustmaster pedals, HP Reverb G2

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                #9
                She does need some updates, but she’s unparalleled when it comes to immersion and saturation… I love her so. Glad you’re back in business.

                C
                Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
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                  #10
                  Fixed, this fix from PMDG

                  Go to the content manager, uninstall the GNS 430 from there and install it again. You should have 2 versions. One with MSFS logo 1.1.2 and the other with the GNS logo 1.1.4 version. See below. Try again to see if the issue is there.




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                    #11
                    Originally posted by Av8rts View Post
                    Fixed, this fix from PMDG

                    Go to the content manager, uninstall the GNS 430 from there and install it again. You should have 2 versions. One with MSFS logo 1.1.2 and the other with the GNS logo 1.1.4 version. See below. Try again to see if the issue is there.




                    ​
                    I believe having both is okay, but all that one requires is the MSFS logo Working Title version. This is the version that the latest version of the DC-6 was designed to work with following the AAU 1 update. Reinstalling the GNS ensures you have the latest.
                    Dan Downs KCRP
                    i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti

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                      #12
                      No gyro LOC mode working in the Bandix version here if I keep these 2 elements :/
                      Sébastien Harault

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                        #13
                        Originally posted by Ragg Sor View Post
                        No gyro LOC mode working in the Bandix version here if I keep these 2 elements :/
                        Not surprised, I only have the MSFS WT GNS installed. All Sperry functions work as expected. The only glitch is what I mentioned in post # 7 above.
                        Dan Downs KCRP
                        i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti

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                          #14
                          Ok thanks, have to wait then, glad I found a fix but still annoying
                          Sébastien Harault

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                            #15
                            Originally posted by Ragg Sor View Post
                            Ok thanks, have to wait then, glad I found a fix but still annoying
                            Why are you waiting. You only need one GNS installed and it should be the one updated by AAU1, which is the MSFS WT GNS 430. Actually, it has a few new features not found in the WT GNS before AAU 1, the only downside is now there is only one way to load a .pln file.
                            Dan Downs KCRP
                            i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti

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                              #16
                              I was quite sure I tested all the possible configuration with or without WT GPS installed,
                              But I will try again following your instructions, I could have missed one possibility (the good one, of course)
                              Thanks !
                              Sébastien Harault

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                                #17
                                DDowns
                                Ok, I just tried again....

                                Here is my Content Manager (in French, but you'll easily understand....)

                                The one labeled "à jour" ( = up to date) is not selectable to uninstall for me.

                                And the Video Capture, 10 min ago :
                                https://youtu.be/pk-qY0VDqxY
                                Sébastien Harault

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                                  #18
                                  Originally posted by Ragg Sor View Post
                                  DDowns
                                  Ok, I just tried again....

                                  Here is my Content Manager (in French, but you'll easily understand....)

                                  The one labeled "à jour" ( = up to date) is not selectable to uninstall for me.

                                  And the Video Capture, 10 min ago :
                                  https://youtu.be/pk-qY0VDqxY
                                  The first/top one is the one you remove. The "a jour" title is all I have installed.

                                  By the way, I have removed the "a jour" one during testing. Select it and there is a uninstall option available.
                                  Dan Downs KCRP
                                  i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti

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                                    #19
                                    Not possible here. :/


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                                    That's why I published a temporary fix procedure there :
                                    Gyropilot after AAU-1 and PMDG update - PMDG Simulations
                                    https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-forum/pmdg-dc-6-cloudmaster-forum/237641-gyropilot-after-aau-1-and-pmdg-update?p=241371#post241371
                                    Dear PMDG crew, Copy from my discord posts : 1.) Had a lot of issues from updating only: Engines overboosted , Flaps not indicating, VOR dead ... Looks good now after the CLEAN DC-6 install (AAU-1 incl latest WTT GNS) but: 2.) After the last flights i can say, that the issues with the gyro pilot have not been fixed.


                                    Originally posted by DDowns View Post
                                    . Couldn't get the Sperry to work right until I selected then unselected the GNS-430
                                    Unfortunately that does not work here neither
                                    Last edited by Ragg Sor; 20Mar2023, 21:27.
                                    Sébastien Harault

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                                      #20
                                      Ragg Sor, you remove the Garmen GNS/430/530 by removing it from your community folder..it cannot be removed by MSFS Content Manager because it wasn't installed by MSFS. It is the most simple of uninstalls.
                                      Dan Downs KCRP
                                      i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti

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                                        #21
                                        It actually was by the AAU1, like you said.
                                        It's not in my community (it's in my official like I explain in the link I shared)
                                        I choose a screenshot, on purpose, where you can see another mod (Concorde) in the community. The display is different.

                                        That's why I wait... I hope the SU12 will trigger a DC6 update by PMDG, maybe fixing that :/

                                        Thanks for your time anyway
                                        (I don't publish a screenshot my community, I guess you'll trust me, I'm confortable whith all the MSFS configuration specificities, as the IT engeener that I am... )
                                        Last edited by Ragg Sor; 21Mar2023, 00:45.
                                        Sébastien Harault

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                                          #22
                                          Originally posted by DDowns View Post
                                          Ragg Sor, you remove the Garmen GNS/430/530 by removing it from your community folder..it cannot be removed by MSFS Content Manager because it wasn't installed by MSFS. It is the most simple of uninstalls.
                                          The GNS that is part of the DC6 is not in the community folder. it is in the MSFS folder, and cannot be removed in the market place.
                                          Bob Cardone

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                                          • DDowns
                                            #22.1
                                            DDowns commented
                                            26Mar2023, 17:38
                                            Editing a comment
                                            Agree, this is part of my confusion I referred to in response to Chris M.
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