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    Aileron axis Oscillate

    Hi,

    i am searching for an solution but nobody have my problem. I have the Thrustmaster Warthog in use and it is an clean install of the flightsimulator and nothing else is installed.

    I can't use the DC6 because the aileron axis oscillate continuose. The DC6 tilts of over the aileron axis. When i start the giro pilot it happend a massiv increase. It feels like all is out of control. It is absolut non stable but i don't know what the problem is. Have anybody an idea?

    Best Regards

    Sebastian


    #2
    Originally posted by blackshark911 View Post
    Hi,

    i am searching for an solution but nobody have my problem. I have the Thrustmaster Warthog in use and it is an clean install of the flightsimulator and nothing else is installed.

    I can't use the DC6 because the aileron axis oscillate continuose. The DC6 tilts of over the aileron axis. When i start the giro pilot it happend a massiv increase. It feels like all is out of control. It is absolut non stable but i don't know what the problem is. Have anybody an idea?

    Best Regards

    Sebastian
    Welcome to the PMDG Forums Sebastian. Please note a forum rule we agreed to on joining requires all of us to sign our full names.

    I have been using the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS controllers with the DC-6 since day one (XP10 P3D MSFS and beta testing) and have never had a problem with roll control. The first thing that comes to mind is to ensure you have removed all default controller assignments except for the ones you use. Secondly, you have to calibrate axis sensitivity in MSFS and you cannot use linear response curves. MSFS is way out of the box on this, I assume to accomodate xbox game controllers, and most come up with some heavy handed s-curves with reaction values reduced from full.

    The DC-6 is stable in roll and rarely upsets when hand flying and never when coupled to gyropilot. Hope this helps.
    Dan Downs KCRP
    i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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      #3
      Hi Dan,

      many thanks for your response. No default controller exist. Axis sensitivity is calibrated.

      The result ist this:





      The giro pilot is turned on, i don't fly by hand.


      Best Regards

      Sebastian Bodien

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        #4
        Originally posted by blackshark911 View Post
        Hi Dan,

        many thanks for your response. No default controller exist. Axis sensitivity is calibrated.

        The giro pilot is turned on, i don't fly by hand.


        Best Regards

        Sebastian Bodien
        To be blunt, that looks realistic given the nature of MSFS weather especially around any clouds or mountains. What do you expect it to do, fly as if she were on rails?

        Dan Downs KCRP
        i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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          #5
          Originally posted by blackshark911 View Post
          Hi Dan,

          many thanks for your response. No default controller exist. Axis sensitivity is calibrated.

          The result ist this:




          The giro pilot is turned on, i don't fly by hand.


          Best Regards

          Sebastian Bodien

          You are flying on Icing conditions, have you turned the anti ice on? Does this happen on clear weather? ie no weather loaded at all?
          Chris Makris (Olympic260)
          PMDG Technical Support
          http://www.pmdg.com

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            #6
            Originally posted by DDowns View Post

            To be blunt, that looks realistic given the nature of MSFS weather especially around any clouds or mountains. What do you expect it to do, fly as if she were on rails?
            No, it isn't normal. It have to be possible to trim out the plane and have realistic smooth reactions by the axis like the ailerons. If i make more than one second nothing the plane tilts very fast over the ailerons.

            Another example what happened if i start the giro pilot:

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              #7
              Originally posted by cmakris View Post


              You are flying on Icing conditions, have you turned the anti ice on? Does this happen on clear weather? ie no weather loaded at all?
              It is 10 seconds after the start. Icing are not the probelm i think. I try it in different conditions once with clear contitions. Every time i had have the same problems.

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                #8
                Originally posted by blackshark911 View Post

                It is 10 seconds after the start. Icing are not the probelm i think. I try it in different conditions once with clear contitions. Every time i had have the same problems.
                It should not be doing that in the absence of weather conditions. Even hand flying, I've never had an instability about any axis. I wonder why you had to do a clean install of MSFS? How was that done, and did you ensure that all previous DC-6 files and folders were removed before you reinstalled it?
                Dan Downs KCRP
                i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                  #9
                  Ok, i found the problem. The option flightmodel was changed to classic. I set it to modern and now it works fine. Many thanks for your all feedback :-)

                  Best regards

                  Sebastian Bodien

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackshark911 View Post
                    Ok, i found the problem. The option flightmodel was changed to classic. I set it to modern and now it works fine. Many thanks for your all feedback :-)

                    Best regards

                    Sebastian Bodien
                    I apologize for having thought of that after I had posted and not added, but I was waiting for a reply. Glad you got it sorted and thanks for letting the forum know that roll instability can be caused by legacy flight model.
                    Dan Downs KCRP
                    i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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