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    Frame Rate?

    I'm curious what frame rates people are getting on the ground with engines running. I know this module is more intensive than the basic ones, but wanted to check with other to compare to make sure I'm in the same ballpark.

    With graphics settings on max @1440p, I'm getting around 35fps.

    What about others?
    Daniel Lucas - KLOU
    i9-10900K 32GB RTX3090
    PPL SEL (SR22)

    I have mine locked to 30 FPS, it stays there all the time.
    Bob Cardone


      Same here, locked at thirty. I’m fluctuates 25 to 30.
      Victor Green


        Who actually thinks frame rate is important?? It means nothing unless it's too low. As long as the animation is fluid there is nothing to be gained from high frame rates.

        Yeah there are a few that claim they can tell the difference between 30 and 50 frames/second. I have a hard time believing it.
        Dan Downs KCRP
        i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti


          Originally posted by DDowns View Post
          Who actually thinks frame rate is important?? It means nothing unless it's too low. As long as the animation is fluid there is nothing to be gained from high frame rates.

          Yeah there are a few that claim they can tell the difference between 30 and 50 frames/second. I have a hard time believing it.
          Frame rate can be an important indicator of your PC's health and settings. If yours is much different than others with similar setups that means something is wrong and you can take a closer look if you're so inclined. If it's within ballpark then it means you've got things running correctly. With a new simulator and new high-end addon this becomes especially useful as there are a lot of unknowns and you have no baseline to compare it to.

          Seeing everyone's responses at around 30fps while I'm gettting 38 with an RTX3090 tells me I my setup seems in order as those number make sense. If everyone was getting 50+fps then it would mean I've probably got an issue with either my settings, driver, etc. and I should take a closer look as I'm not utilizing full potential.

          Hope that clears it up!
          Daniel Lucas - KLOU
          i9-10900K 32GB RTX3090
          PPL SEL (SR22)


          • DDowns
            DDowns commented
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            Possible, but because there are so many user controlled variables, display settings and so on, it's not a great indication of how well your system is doing. It's pretty easy to degrade P3D display quality for the sake of pure speed.

          I'm getting approx. 32-36fps in the cockpit, on the ground, engines turning, ready to roll.

          i9-10850K, 64Gb, 2080ti, running at 4K
          Ian Watkins - (DNBOF in the air)


            Originally posted by DDowns View Post
            I have a hard time believing it.
            Just visit some of the widely available online tool, such as
            if you do not see the difference between 30 and 60 FPS, lucky you. Dont get me wrong, I am used to 30 FPS in sims for decades now and if the 30 FPS are maintaned as constant asspossible, everything is fine. But I would still see the difference easily, just no option for me to sacrifice visual beauty for 60 FPS instead of 30 (in sims).


              With the Sim, stuttering can be annoying. A constant experience of 30fps is far far better than 60 or 90fps with dropped frames and stuttering when you're on final approach. This is why FPS locking can make a big difference in MSFS. My settings get me 70fps in cruise at ultrawide (not quite 4k, but most of the way there) with all dials turned to the max, and ~30-40fps in highly detailed places eg Sydney. But the hardware is overkill and the only reason I have it, is because I got it for *gasp* RRP and it doesn't drop frames

              There is a massive difference between 30fps and 60fps. However, you're not playing CSGO here, and for a simulator as long as it doesn't stutter you're alright. Unfortunately lower end hardware can do this, and people perceive this as not getting enough FPS.

              MSFS is a little different however. Turn on Dev mode in the settings and see if you're thread limited; if you are, then the processor is the limiting factor. Not your graphics card. Interestingly MSFS is the only high fidelity game that I own, that is thread limited rather than GPU limited at 4K

              Guys saying FPS doesn't matter, are like the rich saying you can't buy happiness. It's true, but those people are also rocking 3090/6900xt
              Niko Eltarenko
              3900x OC @4.45Ghz - RedDevil 6900XT OC @2850mhz - 64GB - Hyper X16 NVME RAID


                I'm getting average 42-51 fps on High settings 1440p with 3080 TI.
                Best regards,
                Anatoly Fedorov