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Will the 777 be updated like the 737 and 747?

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    Will the 777 be updated like the 737 and 747?

    Hello!

    will there be a new and improved version of the 777 in the sense that we went from the NGX-NGXu?

    thank you
    Amrick Dhillon

    #2
    No, the upcoming update won't be payware, but it's a major update though.


    Anton Vind

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      #3
      Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
      Hello!

      will there be a new and improved version of the 777 in the sense that we went from the NGX-NGXu?

      thank you
      https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...n-on-sentences

      Looks like the v5 version of the 777 is the next "upgrade". Haven't seen any talks about a revitalization though like the NGXu was.
      Josh Burr P3D v5.0.24.34874 Win 10
      i7-4790K GTX1080 8GB

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        #4
        Thanks for the responses and the link!

        the part regarding a possible MD-11 was interesting, haha!
        Amrick Dhillon

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          #5
          The 777 definitely needs an overhaul like the NGX->NGXu, but for now an update is just fine. When the dear MSFS will come to life, I suspect that all products will be completely redesigned to take advantage of the awesome features the new sim will have to offer. It won't be just a "copy and paste" of the existing ones.
          But the incoming update definitely is going to revive the 777 😊
          Giovanni D. Tarar
          FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
          I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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            #6
            Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
            Hello!

            will there be a new and improved version of the 777 in the sense that we went from the NGX-NGXu?

            thank you

            someday, maybe ... but don't count on it, because it is already known that the 777 is not a priority for pmdg ... bearing in mind, again, that the 747, which was already much more recent, was updated to the prepar3d v5, and the 777 .. nothing ... so maybe it will be updated, maybe not .. maybe next month .. maybe in a few years ... don't count on it or create expectations.
            Leandro Manducci

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              #7
              Originally posted by Manducci View Post
              someday, maybe ... but don't count on it, because it is already known that the 777 is not a priority for pmdg ... bearing in mind, again, that the 747, which was already much more recent, was updated to the prepar3d v5, and the 777 .. nothing ... so maybe it will be updated, maybe not .. maybe next month .. maybe in a few years ... don't count on it or create expectations.
              I don't know what you're trying to get at here, but the 747 update was already being worked on when P3D V5 got released, so it naturally made more sense for the 747 to get updated first since they were already working on it anyway. Do keep in mind that the NGXu is a newer product than the 747, and it certainly wasn't the first one to be V5 compatible.
              Captain Kevin

              Kevin Yang

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                #8
                Given also the fact that (unfortunately) the 777 is the least updated product at the moment, it would be so much work to roll it out on v5, that naturally they focused more on the 747 and NGXu, which surely required less amount of work that the 777 would.
                But there will be an update eventually, and it's surely gonna happen in a month or two. Keep in mind GFO cannot launch without all the line being ready, so that is gonna push the 777 update to be completed in a decent amount of time.
                And also, now it's unlikely that it will be pushed back any further (unless MSFS launches, but I see it very unlikely too).
                Giovanni D. Tarar
                FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Manducci View Post
                  someday, maybe ... but don't count on it, because it is already known that the 777 is not a priority for pmdg ... bearing in mind, again, that the 747, which was already much more recent, was updated to the prepar3d v5, and the 777 .. nothing ... so maybe it will be updated, maybe not .. maybe next month .. maybe in a few years ... don't count on it or create expectations.
                  Did you read the [07MAR20]-update that RSR published? He wrote a lot about the 777 and even provided a couple of images as well, so it's not like the 777 has been forgotten, some people are working at it. However, keep in mind that they've got tons of other stuff to do, so naturally the progress is slow. As Giovanni mentions, the update has to be published before GFO goes live, so my wild guess is that it will be available in a month or two. :-)


                  Anton Vind

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                    #10
                    PMDGs priority for some reason is to update an aircraft that isn't a primary long haul aircraft anymore. I'm not even expecting anything until MS2020. I'm enjoying the A330 as it's a fun plane to fly.
                    Peter Walsh.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by VBHB View Post
                      PMDGs priority for some reason is to update an aircraft that isn't a primary long haul aircraft anymore. I'm not even expecting anything until MS2020. I'm enjoying the A330 as it's a fun plane to fly.
                      Peter,

                      If you mean the 747 then it was updated first sine a patch was in the works already when V5 was released.
                      Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                      PMDG Technical Support
                      http://www.pmdg.com

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                        #12
                        I'm a bit lost. What needs improving on the 777 as dramatically as the NGX vs the u?
                        The NGX was quite old and the VC didn't really resemble a 737 properly. The 777 IMO seems really good still and with the addition of the new features after the updates (EFB, ACARS, PBR etc.) it will still remain a top tier product
                        Alex Farmer A.K.A Goldstar Textures

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by AlexFarmer View Post
                          I'm a bit lost. What needs improving on the 777 as dramatically as the NGX vs the u?
                          The NGX was quite old and the VC didn't really resemble a 737 properly. The 777 IMO seems really good still and with the addition of the new features after the updates (EFB, ACARS, PBR etc.) it will still remain a top tier product
                          The VC needs a lot of work to at least resemble the 747 or the NGXu, and there's also a lot of work to do in the systems.
                          A few times when following LNAV/VNAV paths the aircraft get confused, overshoots turns or is not able to meet an altitude/speed restriction. I also think that the FMS needs to be updated a bit, and have all the features needed for GFO.

                          Is not clear if the 777 will have an EFB, but if it's going to happen, probably it won't come out with this update.
                          Also converting all the texture to PBR is not an easy job (I think).

                          So given the difference between the NGXu and the 777, you can easily see how much PMDG has improved and stepped up on their quality during the years. Making the 777 exactly like the NGXu would require a new product; bringing it to the level of the 747 is something possible, but with much work.
                          It was a top tier product, but compared to what they've achieved today is definitely an old plane. That's the reason some users here keep saying that it's under work, but it'll take time.
                          Eventually we'll have it flying all nice and shiny. 😀
                          Giovanni D. Tarar
                          FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                          I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                            #14
                            The 777 will get the EFB I think, it won't come with this update though. And yes, the update will include all the features needed to interact with GFO. Hopefully the 777 will be brought up to the 747 standard at least



                            EDIT: Btw are the windows in the 777 VC way off like they were in the NGX?


                            Anton Vind

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CBT_Phoenix View Post
                              Is not clear if the 777 will have an EFB, but if it's going to happen, probably it won't come out with this update.
                              It will, but not with this update. I think they said it would be around the time they work on the -200ER.
                              Captain Kevin

                              Kevin Yang

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                                It will, but not with this update. I think they said it would be around the time they work on the -200ER.
                                Splendid news! To be honest I personally don't have the urge to get an EFB (neither on the 744 nor the 777), so hopefully the WIP update doesn't face new obstacles, hence new delays.
                                We want to see GFO rolled out 😁. Too bad it will be available only on PMDG aircrafts, and not a global network, but quality comes first!
                                Giovanni D. Tarar
                                FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                                I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CBT_Phoenix View Post
                                  Too bad it will be available only on PMDG aircrafts, and not a global network, but quality comes first!
                                  Aircraft from other developers such as the Aerosoft airbusses will also be able to participate in GFO :-)


                                  Anton Vind

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Anton Vind View Post

                                    Aircraft from other developers such as the Aerosoft airbusses will also be able to participate in GFO :-)
                                    Oh yesssssss!!!! 🎉
                                    PMDG had a wonderful idea!!! 😍
                                    Giovanni D. Tarar
                                    FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                                    I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                                      #19
                                      Exactly. It's very nice of PMDG to allow other developers to participate in GFO - will make the network even bigger. I think the Aerosoft A330 has already simulated that little screen in the flight deck that handles CPDLC etc. (of course it's not operational yet).


                                      Anton Vind

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                                        They put it there just to tease us

                                      • Anton Vind
                                        Anton Vind commented
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                                        Yes 😩 <meeting requirement to write at least 10 characters> lol
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