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    NGXu Bug or Failures?

    G’day All,

    I have always enjoyed my PMDG aircraft, these guys do a great job. Lately though I’m losing all my hair with the NGXu issues I am facing.
    APU Gen not engaging, engines stuck with no thrust (I can see the levers move but aircraft generates no power), and the latest one is I tried to takeoff and eng 1 stops and shows Eng Fail.
    I have just about tried everything and the issues creep back up after a few flights. Issue that happens the most is APU Gen.

    I’ve tried:
    - deleting panel states and creating new ones from a default load as suggested in other threads.
    - checked for failures and turned them off. Notice whilst doing this Tire Failure always seems to be active despite failures set to off.
    - complete uninstalled and reinstalled the NGXu

    Something is not quite right and I can’t figure out why. Any help appreciated.

    Currently running on P3Dv5 HF2. All other aircraft and sim is working with no issues. Failures and damage off in sim as well.

    Cheers
    Bruno Ramos - YSSY

    #2
    If you have FSUIPC delete the fsuipc.ini and let it rebuild on next start
    Chris Makris (Olympic260)
    PMDG Technical Support
    http://www.pmdg.com

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      #3
      Thank you Chris! I do have FSUIPC. It’s late here so I will give that a go tomorrow.

      Cheers
      Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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        #4
        Update - So I have done as suggested Chris. Did a few test and I can say that Tire Failure always active despite failures set to off appears resolved.

        Despite again after fsuipc.ini rebuild and creating new panel states from default the APU Gen got stuck on me again. APU is available but switches don’t engage and light remains on.

        As for the others engines not producing thrust issue it can take a couple of days so see how that goes.
        Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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          #5
          Ok so multiple flights have gone by and I have not encountered issues with engine fails etc after allowing fsuipc.ini to regenerate. So fingers crossed on that front!

          The APU Gen issue remains and happens in 1 out of 3 flights where it just doesn’t engage and light remains on. Tried again to delete panel states does not appear to resolve the problem.
          Last edited by BRamos; 01Aug2020, 11:44.
          Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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            #6
            The APU Gen not engaging is something I and other users have experienced as well.
            The only solution that seems to have worked so far is to delete every generated panel state after or before each flight. The NGXu automatically generates some panel states, so you just need to delete them and leave only the default ones.
            Giovanni D. Tarar
            FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
            I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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              #7
              Originally posted by CBT_Phoenix View Post
              The only solution that seems to have worked so far is to delete every generated panel state after or before each flight. The NGXu automatically generates some panel states, so you just need to delete them and leave only the default ones.
              By automatically generates some panel states do you mean like the ‘previous flight’ ones?
              Could I use the ones I’ve created with that workaround?

              Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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                #8
                Originally posted by BRamos View Post

                By automatically generates some panel states do you mean like the ‘previous flight’ ones?
                Could I use the ones I’ve created with that workaround?
                Yes those ones.
                I don't know how custom panel states can affect the APU issue, but I can suggest you to give it a try only with the default panel states without the generated ones (maybe temporarily move the custom ones in another folder). If that works, try adding the custom ones and give it another shot.
                Giovanni D. Tarar
                FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                  #9
                  Hello, I would like to report another bug that I have not seen so far. Rain enters the cabin and the effect is not seen in the windows. What can happen. Thank you very much.
                  I do not know if it is appropriate to ask for this thread. I'm new. Thank you.

                  Raúl Peluso

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                  • DDowns
                    DDowns commented
                    Editing a comment
                    I understand, maybe incorrectly, that the interior rain effect only occurs if you are using the advanced atmospherics (still in beta).

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Macpel View Post
                  Hello, I would like to report another bug that I have not seen so far. Rain enters the cabin and the effect is not seen in the windows. What can happen. Thank you very much.
                  I do not know if it is appropriate to ask for this thread. I'm new. Thank you.

                  Raúl Peluso
                  That is a known issue and lays within P3Dv5, and it's not PMDG's fault. According to LM, it will be fixed in v5.1
                  Giovanni D. Tarar
                  FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                  I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                    #11
                    Thanks Giovanni I’ll see how I go.
                    Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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                    • CBT_Phoenix
                      CBT_Phoenix commented
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                      Keep us updated! I struggled with this issue for a while lol

                    #12
                    Very good, thank you very much, lest there be a short in the panel. XD
                    We will wait. Thank you.

                    Raúl Peluso

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                      #13
                      Seems CBT_Phoenix might have us on the right track. Delete all the “Previous Flight” files from the panel states folder and so far hasn’t happened again. So I have created a batch file to automatically delete them when I launch P3D. I will continue with for a week and report if no further issues or give another update if it happens again.
                      Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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                        #14
                        I leave the “Previous Flight" and not have problem before, but today I accidently load that one before I (wait it fully loaded) and switch to a cold and dark state saved by me which I normally use.
                        Then the APU GEN just refuse to engage then.... I made a MEL on that and the rest of flight was eventless.
                        ZHU Hai
                        B737 Ground instructor

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                          #15
                          Ok I waited a little more than a week to confirm. Issue is gone with APU Gens not engaging. Definitely something to do with those ‘Previous Flight’ panel state saves the aircraft creates. Since I created a batch file to delete those before I run the sim I have not encountered the issue again.
                          CBT_Phoenix Cheers and Thank you
                          Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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                            #16
                            Originally posted by BRamos View Post
                            G’day All,

                            I have always enjoyed my PMDG aircraft, these guys do a great job. Lately though I’m losing all my hair with the NGXu issues I am facing.
                            APU Gen not engaging, engines stuck with no thrust (I can see the levers move but aircraft generates no power), and the latest one is I tried to takeoff and eng 1 stops and shows Eng Fail.
                            I have just about tried everything and the issues creep back up after a few flights. Issue that happens the most is APU Gen.

                            I’ve tried:
                            - deleting panel states and creating new ones from a default load as suggested in other threads.
                            - checked for failures and turned them off. Notice whilst doing this Tire Failure always seems to be active despite failures set to off.
                            - complete uninstalled and reinstalled the NGXu

                            Something is not quite right and I can’t figure out why. Any help appreciated.

                            Currently running on P3Dv5 HF2. All other aircraft and sim is working with no issues. Failures and damage off in sim as well.

                            Cheers
                            For some reason I have the same result with SOME of my panel saves! I have yet to predict or find out which or why they are corrupted, but its VERY annoying! And I thought that PMDG stopped the rain inside the cockpit, well its still raining through the ceiling...
                            Yours Truly
                            Boaz Fraizer

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                            • DDowns
                              DDowns commented
                              Editing a comment
                              PMDG doesn't create rain effects, other than that stuff on the windscreen that I find to be an inadequate attempt. I've read that enhanced atmospherics causes this problem.... EA is still in beta. I keep it off.

                            • Windshear
                              Windshear commented
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                              No I will not keep it off thank you very much, it makes a world of a difference, I just read or misread the changelog to the latest updates having cleared this up...

                              But what about the saved panel states, its really terrible, as the sim is so unstable with VRAM and menus making it crash and freeze to death, I need to rely on the autosave, which unfortunately is even worse for my simming experience. I am quite horrified at the state of P3D V5 and the lack of response from LM, now that MSFS in out this is not creating any sense of loyalty in me...

                            #17
                            Originally posted by BRamos View Post
                            Ok I waited a little more than a week to confirm. Issue is gone with APU Gens not engaging. Definitely something to do with those ‘Previous Flight’ panel state saves the aircraft creates. Since I created a batch file to delete those before I run the sim I have not encountered the issue again.
                            CBT_Phoenix Cheers and Thank you
                            PMDG does not create those previous flight files. Those are done by FSUIPC and I've looked at a way to disable the feature, which I have had numerous problems with, but I am still looking. Shout out if you figure out a way other than deleting files. FSUIPC can be a real PITA at times.
                            Dan Downs KCRP
                            i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 1080Ti

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                              #18
                              Originally posted by DDowns View Post

                              PMDG does not create those previous flight files. Those are done by FSUIPC and I've looked at a way to disable the feature, which I have had numerous problems with, but I am still looking. Shout out if you figure out a way other than deleting files. FSUIPC can be a real PITA at times.
                              Dan,

                              Use this statement in the fsuipc6 ini (the name for my version of FSUIPC ini ) file:

                              SavePreviousFlight=no


                              Example:
                              [General]
                              UpdatedByVersion=6010
                              History=2UAY6BRZPZOFV9MUID6RU
                              SavePreviousFlight=no
                              Vaughan Martell KDTW

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                                #19
                                Originally posted by von View Post

                                Dan,

                                Use this statement in the fsuipc6 ini (the name for my version of FSUIPC ini ) file:

                                SavePreviousFlight=no


                                Example:
                                [General]
                                UpdatedByVersion=6010
                                History=2UAY6BRZPZOFV9MUID6RU
                                SavePreviousFlight=no
                                That really helps saving a lot of time.
                                Thanks 😊
                                Giovanni D. Tarar
                                FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                                I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                                  #20
                                  Originally posted by Windshear View Post

                                  For some reason I have the same result with SOME of my panel saves! I have yet to predict or find out which or why they are corrupted, but its VERY annoying! And I thought that PMDG stopped the rain inside the cockpit, well its still raining through the ceiling...
                                  I just read a post in the LM P3D beta forum that confirms the rain in VC is still an issue. Your choice is to accept the shower or turn of EA. LM expects to bring it out of beta soon with fixes for many issues including this one.
                                  Dan Downs KCRP
                                  i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 1080Ti

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                                    #21
                                    Originally posted by BRamos View Post
                                    Seems CBT_Phoenix might have us on the right track. Delete all the “Previous Flight” files from the panel states folder and so far hasn’t happened again. So I have created a batch file to automatically delete them when I launch P3D. I will continue with for a week and report if no further issues or give another update if it happens again.
                                    Try this (FSUIPC users):

                                    Use this statement in the fsuipc6 ini (the name for my version of FSUIPC ini ) file:

                                    SavePreviousFlight=no


                                    Example:
                                    [General]
                                    UpdatedByVersion=6010
                                    History=2UAY6BRZPZOFV9MUID6RU
                                    SavePreviousFlight=no

                                    Vaughan Martell KDTW

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                                      #22
                                      Originally posted by von View Post

                                      Try this (FSUIPC users):

                                      Use this statement in the fsuipc6 ini (the name for my version of FSUIPC ini ) file:

                                      SavePreviousFlight=no


                                      Example:
                                      [General]
                                      UpdatedByVersion=6010
                                      History=2UAY6BRZPZOFV9MUID6RU
                                      SavePreviousFlight=no
                                      No wonder I couldn't find this... it was missing from my fsuipc6.ini. It's in there now. Thanks.
                                      Dan Downs KCRP
                                      i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 1080Ti

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                                      • mats0916
                                        mats0916 commented
                                        Editing a comment
                                        Included in mine too! Nice find.

                                      #23
                                      Thanks for that. I will include that line in fsuipc ini file and see how it goes.
                                      cheers
                                      Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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                                        #24
                                        Alright. So I don’t know why or if just a coincidence but removing the batch file I created to delete the ‘previous flight’ saves and adding that line in fsuipc has made the APU Gen problem of not engaging come back. It is fsuipc creating those files but I had success with no APU Gen issues when it was creating the file and then batch deleted it.

                                        This is very odd. I suspect something is corrupting panel save files perhaps fsuipc.

                                        For the moment I will go back to letting it create then deleting it until I find a better option or one comes along.
                                        Bruno Ramos - YSSY

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