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    Brakes not cooling down after landing

    Hi guys,

    I've pruned the NGXu forum but can't find any earlier report about this.

    After landing the brakes need to cool down during the turn around. Thing
    is: in my sim they don't. The temp does accumulates after each landing though,
    resulting in an overheated brake system after, let's say, landing #3.

    I've let the sim sit overnight as well to be sure, but temp still unchanged.

    Is this a known issue or am I missing something?

    Grtz.,

    Hans Jaspers

    #2
    Originally posted by Kaashaas View Post
    Hi guys,

    I've pruned the NGXu forum but can't find any earlier report about this.

    After landing the brakes need to cool down during the turn around. Thing
    is: in my sim they don't. The temp does accumulates after each landing though,
    resulting in an overheated brake system after, let's say, landing #3.

    I've let the sim sit overnight as well to be sure, but temp still unchanged.

    Is this a known issue or am I missing something?

    Grtz.,

    Hans Jaspers
    Known. For now use the coll brakes from FMC to cool the brakes.
    Chris Makris (Olympic260)
    PMDG Technical Support
    http://www.pmdg.com

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      #3
      Originally posted by Kaashaas View Post
      Hi guys,

      I've pruned the NGXu forum but can't find any earlier report about this.

      After landing the brakes need to cool down during the turn around. Thing
      is: in my sim they don't. The temp does accumulates after each landing though,
      resulting in an overheated brake system after, let's say, landing #3.

      I've let the sim sit overnight as well to be sure, but temp still unchanged.

      Is this a known issue or am I missing something?

      Grtz.,

      Hans Jaspers
      you could also use less brakes hehe, at least until its fixed.
      Michael Backes
      ---------------------

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        #4
        Originally posted by elmucki View Post

        you could also use less brakes hehe, at least until its fixed.
        That's not really going to help it, the 737s brakes heat rather quickly so if the heat can't dissipate you'll be hopelessy lost after the second landing anyway.
        Even with Autobrake 1 (which gives you landing distances of about 3000m!) you would have trouble after the second or third landing.
        If you use Autobrake 3 or higher you'll need brake cooling on any given turnaround.

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          #5
          Yeah, landing and not being able to exit the runway whilst flying on VATSIM with another plane on final was not the best time to realize I didn't remember this issue.
          Captain Kevin

          Kevin Yang

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            #6
            I've pruned the NGXu forum but can't find any earlier report about this.
            Guess you missed this: https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...just-a-warning
            Charles Harris KRTS The Valley of Speed
            ASUS ROG Strix B450-F, Ryzen 3700X, 1TB 970 Neo M2,1TB SSD, RX 5700XT 8GB, 32GB DDR4 3200

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              #7
              Originally posted by Snowfalcon View Post
              Though it does mention brakes, don't think it's the same issue.
              Captain Kevin

              Kevin Yang

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                #8
                Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                Though it does mention brakes, don't think it's the same issue.
                doesn't or does? also brakes get hot due to Air temp too. fly into phoenix and see what i mean. I dont think its much of an issue but a system PMDG installed replicating the real 737. the NGXu has a lot of features that have been modeled into it that people don't realize.
                Alex Kulak
                PMDG Studier and flyer

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
                  doesn't or does? also brakes get hot due to Air temp too. fly into phoenix and see what i mean. I dont think its much of an issue but a system PMDG installed replicating the real 737. the NGXu has a lot of features that have been modeled into it that people don't realize.
                  In the post Charles linked, he describes a situation where he failed to set the autobrakes on landing. In this instance, the brake temperatures will only go up, but not down, so if you fly multiple flights, you get hot brakes and blown tires by the third landing. Chris already acknowledged that this is an issue.
                  Captain Kevin

                  Kevin Yang

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                    #10
                    Emanuel:
                    Do I need to worry about over heating the 737 brakes during taxiing? or just landings? On the 747 I roasted my brakes just taxing. But the 737 is so much lighter.
                    Paul Gugliotta

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                      Emanuel:
                      Do I need to worry about over heating the 737 brakes during taxiing? or just landings? On the 747 I roasted my brakes just taxing. But the 737 is so much lighter.
                      The 777 is most prone to heating while taxiing, of course a heavy 747 must be handled with care... and were you not the guy who likes to make 90 deg turns at 25 kts?
                      Dan Downs KCRP
                      i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 1080Ti

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                        #12
                        Yes that was me. But making those high speed turns was because I am always rushing to make 1 flight without someone bothering me. I since slowed down to get more realism and not to break the sim also.
                        Paul Gugliotta

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                          Yes that was me. But making those high speed turns was because I am always rushing to make 1 flight without someone bothering me. I since slowed down to get more realism and not to break the sim also.
                          So how did you handle the issue of somebody bothering you. Asking for a friend.
                          Captain Kevin

                          Kevin Yang

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                            #14
                            Well I am married to her for 25 years. So i just hit the pause key and give her what she wants. That is how you stay married!
                            Paul Gugliotta

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                              Well I am married to her for 25 years. So i just hit the pause key and give her what she wants. That is how you stay married!
                              And now you've just confirmed why I will most likely not ever be married. Though I suppose my line of work doesn't make marriage very conducive, either, or a relationship, for that matter.
                              Captain Kevin

                              Kevin Yang

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                                #16
                                Do I need to worry about over heating the 737 brakes during taxiing? or just landings? On the 747 I roasted my brakes just taxing. But the 737 is so much lighter.
                                If you abuse the brakes on a long taxi out and then have to do a Reject Take Off you might very well have a problem.
                                Charles Harris KRTS The Valley of Speed
                                ASUS ROG Strix B450-F, Ryzen 3700X, 1TB 970 Neo M2,1TB SSD, RX 5700XT 8GB, 32GB DDR4 3200

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Snowfalcon View Post

                                  If you abuse the brakes on a long taxi out and then have to do a Reject Take Off you might very well have a problem.
                                  On a reject, you will have a temperature problem regardless of how you taxi to the runway.
                                  Rafael Cordoves

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Icaruss View Post
                                    On a reject, you will have a temperature problem regardless of how you taxi to the runway.
                                    Yes, but if you already have hot brakes prior to starting the take-off roll and you need to abort, just stopping the plane might be an issue.
                                    Captain Kevin

                                    Kevin Yang

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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Icaruss View Post

                                      On a reject, you will have a temperature problem regardless of how you taxi to the runway.
                                      The whole thing about brake temperature is that you want cold brakes when cleared for TAKE OFF. That's what the brake cooling schedule, and partly the autobrake/reverse on dry decision, is all about.
                                      Omar Josef
                                      Spain

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                                        #20
                                        Fixed in this weeks update! ;-)

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