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    Question for real 737 pilots regarding viewing field

    Hi all,

    I was adjusting my view point in the NGXu yesterday and i moved it up to the point where I can just see the windshield wiper (this is all left seat). I just wanted to find out from those who have actually sat in the 737 cockpit, do you actually sit high enough to see the windshield wiper? - I know it may be different for everyone depending on how tall you are and the seat height adjustment, but i wanted to get a broad idea. I initially had my viewing point a little lower where I couldn't see the wiper, but that view gives me the impression that i'm sitting too low in the cockpit and looking straight out at the displays instead of looking down at them. With the higher view setting it feels like i'm looking down at the displays but i do lose a little bit of straight out visibility from the left corner of the cockpit where the window frame dips a tad bit. Anyway since i don't have a 737NG cockpit to go jump in and see what i can see, i thought i'd ask the experts her. Thnx all!


    Richard Bansa

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    Yes, we can see the wiper. You should be able to see the upper surface of the glareshield and the bottom edge of the PFD . But in aviation it's all written. Just read FCOM2 1.40.44 and 1.40.45

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    Last edited by Aeromar; 13Jul2020, 22:30.
    Omar Josef
    Spain

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      #3
      Thanks for the response Omar!! Now that you point it out I do remember seeing the seating guide in the FCOM, it's been a while since i looked at it though 😉

      Richard Bansa

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        #4
        The PMDG's default view is too low and also a little forward
        If you use HUD but without the CDU's HUD eyepoint modifier, you'll see that, I know because that modifier does not support TrackIR then...
        There are some guys fly 737 for decades and only find them had wrong setting position when stating to use HUD....
        ZHU Hai
        B737 Ground instructor

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          #5
          Unless you're in VR there's no point in worrying about the viewing point too much. When I use VR I set up my seat like I would in the real airplane and my VR has enough FOV to give me a correct view point and have the MCP in my peripheral vision. When I fly on the screen, I set up the sim as a procedure trainer with 2d panel popups. I have chaseplane but I only use 2 of its features:
          -One camera for FO seating position and one camera for when we sit on the observer seat to power the airplane up when we arrive.
          -Middle mouse view pan and recenter view.

          So this is how I fly when not in VR (I rarely use VR anymore). I've found this to be the best way to have all the necessary controls and information available on screen all the time. It looks and feels a lot like the procedure trainers you would use after doing the CBT and before jumping in a full size sim when you do an initial 737 type rating, but better. If I feel like taxiing and don't shut down the sim right after landing, the popups go away. I wish there was a button to open and close all popups with a single action.

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          Last edited by Aeromar; 15Jul2020, 09:01.
          Omar Josef
          Spain

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            #6
            It's different when you using TrackIR or something like that, A bit off will make you feel really odd.
            Like some A320 add-on also have about 0.15 feet off to the right, that really makes me feel uncomfortable when flying with TrackIR, so A edit in aircraft.cfg then....
            ZHU Hai
            B737 Ground instructor

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              #7
              Chaseplane totally replaced Trackir for me. I think head movements are more realistic then Trackir without eye strain, headache or nausea. ( Before someone says it no I don't have COVID). I can see my preset camera positions with the touch of a key or hit hot spots with my mouse. I center my Captain seat by the HUD and zoom with a left hand yoke switch to a comfort level for what I'm looking at and pan with my hat switch.
              on a side bar isn't the cockpit geometry in the NGu fantastic compared to the NGX? PMDG is to be congraduled. This is my favorite improvement. Really gives the closed in or cramped feeling of a real 737 cocpit adding exponentially to emersion.
              Victor Green

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