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    update for NGXu is out! 2.91.0121

    update for NGXu is out! 2.91.0121


    forgot to grab the changelog oops
    600/700 up on the website
    Last edited by Swaluver88; 06Feb2020, 00:00.
    Alex Kulak
    PMDG Studier and flyer
    Ramp Agent

    #2
    Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
    update for NGXu is out! 2.91.0121


    forgot to grab the changelog oops
    no 600/700 up on the website tho
    Where do you find the changelog on OPS Center?
    Brett Jones

    Commercial ASEL, AMEL, CFI

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    • Swaluver88
      Swaluver88 commented
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      Was trying to find it when I posted it

    #3
    Found it..

    CHANGE LOG
    PMDG 737 NGX Lifecycle Maintenance - RTM (Micro) 2.91.0121 (Released 2020-02-05) [ View Issues ]
    ================================================== ==============================
    This build is concurrent with release of 600/700 build. (same version number)

    0008481: [External Model - Geometry] Wing Flap Actuator has some visible blue pixels (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008484: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] Clickspot for CVR test misalligned (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0006832: [FMS/AFDS - LNAV] FMC Position stability augmentation with only DME updating (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008471: [FMS - Route/Legs Pages] HOLD key should remain on current LEGS x/x page and not switch to page 1/x (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008299: [AFDS - Pitch Modes] Undocumented feature : MCP Speed reset to 100 on ground with LVL CHG press (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008455: [External Model - Liveries] Misaligned eyebrow window object floating over nose on -600 model. (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008449: [Systems - Fire Protection] Engine Driven HYD pump LOW PRESS light should be inhibited when Engine fire handle is pulled (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008028: [FMS - Functionality Problems (General)] Double "//" on Fix Page (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008434: [FMS - Performance Pages] OAT entry less than sensed value now allowed in N1 limit page (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008412: [General - Suggested/Missing Features] Panel states need updating to reflect recent changes (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
    - 0008463: [AFDS - Thrust Modes] Takeoff: Blank FMA between N1 and THR HLD modes for short time (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008219: [EFB - Performance and Computational] EFB Airport database minimum runway lenght lower than 5000ft (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008400: [AFDS - General] \Added delay between pressing MCP button and mode change (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008439: [FMS - Route/Legs Pages] Fix page decimal distance entry greater than 10 (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008454: [External Model - Geometry] Texture warpage on nose and lower antenna. (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008452: [Systems - Hydraulic] A SYS LOW QTY failure flag is set incorrectly on save flight load even with correct fluid volume in system (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008430: [External Model - Geometry] Incorrect wing model being loaded on 600/700 airframes when looking from VC (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008451: [External Model - Geometry] Eyebrow windows strange color texture (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008447: [Systems - Electrical] Switching from Dual to Single battery option with DC Meter in TEST position leaves switch at incorrect position. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008444: [General - Flight Model] Angular velocity computation incorrectly applied resulting in higher rate heading change during taxi. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008432: [Systems - Electrical] AUX CHGR INOP message incorrectly triggers on test panel with single-battery configured airplane. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008431: [External Model - Geometry] Wheels missing from shadow model (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008424: [General - Installer] Addition of missing SDK sample file: PMDG_NG3_SDK_CDU_Test.cpp in the installer routine (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008425: [External Model - Liveries] 700 Paint Kit reported texture issues (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008428: [External Model - Geometry] Eybrow windows external position (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008429: [EFB - General] Airport Map search page incorrectly titled "AIROPRT MAP" (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
    - 0008406: [External Model - Liveries] 737 Painkit has PMDG_737NGXu_fuselage2 texture from 737-800 (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008423: [General - Flight Model] Elevator and trim effectiveness for very low rotation speeds and takeoff (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008427: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Texture misallignment on electtical panel when Dual Battery is not selected (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008402: [General - Flight Model] Ground effect reduced (considerably) following pilot reports (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008392: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] Autobrake MAX to 3 switch animation should not get pulled out (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008418: [External Model - Geometry] House Liveries missing texture on all 600/700 (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008419: [General - Unsure] Airctraft.cfg wrong Engine type under General section (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008393: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] IRS switch should not need pulling out when moving from OFF to ALIGN (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
    - 0008417: [External Model - Geometry] L1 window mesh issue on the -700 (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008413: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Standby compass deviation chart too small (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008414: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Window strut dimensions not big enough (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008236: [Systems - Pressurization] Cabin Pressurization vertical speed model tune up (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008408: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Stoping distance in the sim is different that what QRH and EFB (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008410: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Door panel textures of the 800 in the 700 (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008403: [AFDS - General] Staged bias out of view of FD bars below 50ft RA (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008405: [FREEZES - All Types] Protection against CTD when changing DEP airport in descend and activating new route (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008197: [Systems - Hydraulic] HYD quantity decreases on load if aircraft is set to init with Previous Flight save state as setup method. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008346: [External Model - Liveries] 737-700 Air Stairs Switch Location (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008388: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Front Windshield seal thikness (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008380: [External Model - Geometry] Perf Improvement package Exhaust Vane Missing (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008381: [External Model - Geometry] Perf Improvement package Exhaust Vane Missing (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008384: [General - Engines] Effect of Thermal Anti Ice on engine thrust [N1] reduced (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008341: [General - Ground Operations] Airstair Extended Not Saved in Panel State (hvanrensburg) - resolved.
    - 0008385: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Gross Weight/CG influence on nosewheel steering improperly allowing NWS at all weight/CG ranges. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008373: [Main Panel - PFD] Flap Retract Bug Up missing with Flaps 25 Take Off SFP (abashkatov) - resolved.
    - 0008378: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Nose gear is moving when rudder is used in flight (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008240: [ACARS - Datalink/Connectivity] Loading Route Uplink into FMS deletes the manually entered Flight No. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008382: [FMS/AFDS - LNAV] Protection of AP roll channel against very high crosswind conditions (>150 knots) (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008377: [Virtual Cockpit - Geometry/Textures] Both pilot seats grey texture present (vscimone) - resolved.
    - 0008367: [External Model - Geometry] Nose wheel nut shows hot brake glow effect (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008374: [General - Unsure] Aircraft.cfg ui_typerole naming difference between house and other liveries (jbrown) - resolved.
    - 0008375: [General - Engines] EGT model during engine light up latter stage refined (emvaos) - resolved.
    - 0008363: [Systems - Fuel] Fuel Temperature changes too rapidly in flight and on ground. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
    - 0008426: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] Clickspot on parking brake light manipulates trim cutout switch guard and 0000002 start lever (vscimone) - closed.
    - 0008078: [Virtual Cockpit - Functionality/Click-Spots] Engine start knob does not have push pull behavior (vscimone) - closed.
    - 0008298: [General - Suggested/Missing Features] Water vapor with lite rain (hvanrensburg) - closed.
    [62 issues]
    Brett Jones

    Commercial ASEL, AMEL, CFI

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      #4
      - 0008402: [General - Flight Model] Ground effect reduced (considerably) following pilot reports (emvaos) - resolved.
      - 0008444: [General - Flight Model] Angular velocity computation incorrectly applied resulting in higher rate heading change during taxi. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
      - 0008408: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Stopping distance in the sim is different that what QRH and EFB (rsrandazzo) - resolved.

      Great improvements. Ground steering is much better. Minimum radius turns are much better. Testing the landing distances now.
      ATPL - Class I Instructor - Seaplane - B737 - BE1900D

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      • Boeing 25-01
        Boeing 25-01 commented
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        What Tiller option in the CDU are you using, and are you using separate axis' for both rudder and tiller?

      • MeatServo
        MeatServo commented
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        Just standard. I use the slider on my Warthog. Most of the issues I have are just the hardware. Would love to have a real tiller.

      #5
      Very nice! Eager to see the new taxi physics, landing ground roll distances, and retuned ground effect.

      Full Stop, Taxi Backs, here I come!
      Angelo Cosma

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        #6

        I dare not clicking on the checkout button
        checkout.jpg
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        Last edited by Cocobellomann; 05Feb2020, 22:01.
        Josef Kolb

        PMDG B737-600 to -900/747-400/747-8/777-200LR/777-300ER

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        • Cocobellomann
          Cocobellomann commented
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          Reallly? hmmmm

        • DavidP
          DavidP commented
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          You know you want too.....

        • Cocobellomann
          Cocobellomann commented
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          OH YEAHHHH

        #7
        Did RSR say the 6/700 is coming the same night as the Update?
        Jordan Collins

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          #8
          Really good stuff in there! Just curious why Robert hasn't made a post about it yet.
          Bogdan Misko

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            #9
            Taxi physics works flawlessly.
            Josef Kolb

            PMDG B737-600 to -900/747-400/747-8/777-200LR/777-300ER

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            • Boeing 25-01
              Boeing 25-01 commented
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              What Tiller option in the CDU are you using, and are you using separate axis' for both rudder and tiller?

            #10
            Originally posted by MeatServo View Post
            - 0008402: [General - Flight Model] Ground effect reduced (considerably) following pilot reports (emvaos) - resolved.
            - 0008444: [General - Flight Model] Angular velocity computation incorrectly applied resulting in higher rate heading change during taxi. (rsrandazzo) - resolved.
            - 0008408: [Systems - Wheels & Brakes] Stopping distance in the sim is different that what QRH and EFB (rsrandazzo) - resolved.

            Great improvements. Ground steering is much better. Minimum radius turns are much better. Testing the landing distances now.
            Just a prelim test for landing distance. Tested Max Autobrake and Autobrake 1 to compare. Proper technique Flaps 30. 65T LDW, 15C, 0', 29.92 taking into account 15% safety factor, and 1500' air distance. Max Auto Braking is spot on the numbers. Autobrake 1 was only ~500' longer. I tried Autobrake 1 without reverse and it was only another ~500' longer.

            Out by a few thousand feet.
            ATPL - Class I Instructor - Seaplane - B737 - BE1900D

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              #11
              Originally posted by MeatServo View Post

              Just a prelim test for landing distance. Tested Max Autobrake and Autobrake 1 to compare. Proper technique Flaps 30. 65T LDW, 15C, 0', 29.92 taking into account 15% safety factor, and 1500' air distance. Max Auto Braking is spot on the numbers. Autobrake 1 was only ~500' longer. I tried Autobrake 1 without reverse and it was only another ~500' longer.

              Out by a few thousand feet.
              What is "out by a few thousand feet" if I may ask? Also, reverser use shouldn't affect landing distance on an uncontaminated runway when using autobraking should it?

              -Aaron Cumberland
              Last edited by Aaron Cumberland; 06Feb2020, 00:34.

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              • Swaluver88
                Swaluver88 commented
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                Meatservo you are correct on hitting the TDZ marker. I was wondering why I couldn't for so long but when I hop in the CAE simulators in DAL I can do it everytime. It's amazing PMDG is literally making their own simulator within a simulator

              • MeatServo
                MeatServo commented
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                Its probably hard to faithfully reproduce the autobrake system with P3Ds limit physics model.

                Autobrake 1 should give you 4 ft/sec² deceleration rate. Autobrake 2 is 5 ft/sec², Autobrake 3 is 7.2 ft/sec² and Max 12 ft/sec² below 80kts and 14 ft/sec² above 80kts.

              • Aaron Cumberland
                Aaron Cumberland commented
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                MeatServo Oh of course, I realize that a desktop computer simulation isn't going to have 1:1 fidelity with the real aircraft's performance. It's always interesting to know how the real aircraft performs in comparison though. Good news to hear that the newest ground effect tweak is working properly also!

              #12
              Originally posted by MeatServo View Post

              Just a prelim test for landing distance. Tested Max Autobrake and Autobrake 1 to compare. Proper technique Flaps 30. 65T LDW, 15C, 0', 29.92 taking into account 15% safety factor, and 1500' air distance. Max Auto Braking is spot on the numbers. Autobrake 1 was only ~500' longer. I tried Autobrake 1 without reverse and it was only another ~500' longer.

              Out by a few thousand feet.
              Which model? We rework the A/B in this update and all tests we made are in agreement with Boeing QRH values for AB usage from 50ft height to full stop (Landing Distance)
              Chris Makris (Olympic260)
              PMDG Technical Support
              http://www.pmdg.com

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              • MeatServo
                MeatServo commented
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                -800BW. Conditions: Sea Level, 15C, 29.92. 0 wind. 65T Landing Weight. Zero Reverse, Autobrake 1, touchdown at Vref, auto deploy speedbrakes, touchdown on the markers of a 9900' runway, CYVR, Steel brakes.

                I let the autobrakes do their thing. It stops halfway, just under 5000', (Max Autobrake numbers for the real bird at MLDW, with safety factor). We use idle reverse in CYVR for noise, and I can't do that with brakes 3 at much lighter weights, slower Vref in the real thing.

                I repeated the test a few times. The numbers I get using NGXu numbers are 2270m + 175m for the extra 5T, +280m for no reverse. 2725m. Subtracting the 15% safety factor I get 2370m from threshold at 50', or 7775' from 50' over threshold end to stop. Ground roll alone would be 6775'.

                If I use real numbers it's nearly 1500' longer, a chart for both C & N brakes. There's a reason the NG's have high runway overrun events.
                Last edited by MeatServo; 07Feb2020, 18:09.
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