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  • Jetman
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    Tutorial 1 demonstrates an auto land

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  • Fabo.sk
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    Old, but still valid https://youtu.be/spnMkEKrzAU

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  • Snowfalcon
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    I would be careful fully trusting FSC to show correct frequencies and ILS. I couldn't get FSC to update the ILS for KRNO even after I had updated the sim. The navigraph charts is way more up to date and accurate. Use the tools from https://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html to keep your version of the sim up to date. Before running some of those tools I flew into airports and couldn't get and ILS engagement only to find it wasn't there in the sim, or the frequencies that the sim had were so out of date. The default navaids in FSX/P3D are pretty bad.

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  • alaaar
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    Yes I downloaded LNM when my original FSX FSC seized to work with P3D, but at the same time I had a question asking for a working version of FSC with P3D at their forum, they offered me a link and to use it on my own risk without support and it works fine with me since then same like the FSX version that's almost a year now.

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  • MattS
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    Yes! Little Navmap is my go-to resource for checking out airport layouts/gates, frequencies etc. Plus, when I see an interesting city or landmark on the ground I use it to figure out what it is!

  • tom0702
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    [QUOTE=alaaar;n34992]
    Originally posted by Snowfalcon View Post
    Hello Charles, I use FSC because I am used to it, at FSC forum I was given a link to a P3D version but without that particular version support and is working fine with me, I also have the new Navigraph interface which is amazing but at an ILS chart the frequency could be different from the P3D navigation data, there could be runways that don't exist at P3D or you can see at P3D runways that are already canceled, that's why I tend to verify the frequency with FSC or P3D, FSC still works for me along with Navigraph.
    Try Little Navmap:
    https://albar965.github.io/littlenavmap.html

    I use it since FSC stopped supporting P3D and I think it's really great

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  • alaaar
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    [QUOTE=Snowfalcon;n33489]

    Hello Charles, I use FSC because I am used to it, at FSC forum I was given a link to a P3D version but without that particular version support and is working fine with me, I also have the new Navigraph interface which is amazing but at an ILS chart the frequency could be different from the P3D navigation data, there could be runways that don't exist at P3D or you can see at P3D runways that are already canceled, that's why I tend to verify the frequency with FSC or P3D, FSC still works for me along with Navigraph.



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  • Captain Bakon
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    It's the correct frequency that I know because my other addons such as the 777 and A320 do the autoland just fine and I updated all the navigation data to this month of the year. I believe I may be pressing the APP button too early so I will wait until Im close to capturing the glideslope.

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  • krodgers
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    Full pictorial write up in the first tutorial, as well.

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  • kvuo75
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    if you want to see what the freq's etc actually are in your p3d scenery you can just look at the map in p3d under navigation / map

  • Snowfalcon
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    Alaa,

    I just noticed you are still using FSC. I used to use it as well but have moved to simbrief as the developers of FSC decided not to support P3D with FSC 10 and go with FSXFSXSE instead. While the map feature was nice in FSC I now use Navigraph Charts. It updates automatically with my navigraph subscription has a moving map feature that allows me to install charts and follow my flight on another PC, tablet of even my phone. You also can pull up the charts for all airports, approaches, SID/STARS for any aircraft even those without an EFB.

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  • Snowfalcon
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    If you go to this website they have some very handy tools for installing the correct navaids in P3D.

    https://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids3.html

    The default P3D data base is old and very wrong in some cases. Case in point the default KRNO has only one ILS when in real life there are 2. If you were attempting to land at one of these airports you would not be able to engage the ILS even with the correct frequency set up. since it's not there in the sim.

    Also in order to get a comnfirmed autoland I would have the aircraft near fully configured for landing at least 10nm out. Gear down slowed down and flaps at or near fully set. Not just in the NGXu but 777 and 747 as well. NGXu and NGX require planning for approach as they both do not like to slow down you have to be thinking way ahead of the aircraft on you deceleration points.

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  • alaaar
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    Most probably because of wrong frequency inserted or you are inserting a frequency you see on the charts but it's not the correct frequency at P3D database or scenery, there are ways to update P3D navigational database but I never did, I have FSC that shows me P3D frequencies, I am sure there are other ways to obtain it too.
    Last edited by alaaar; 20Nov2019, 10:55.

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  • CaptWilliam
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    Both Flight Directors need to be on.

    Willem Bont

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  • AngelofAttack
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    Originally posted by Captain Bakon View Post
    Tried doing that but I noticed that it says G/P instead of G/S is that why?
    If the FMA shows FAC and G/P, it means it's IAN, a FMC calculated "ILS" indication, it's not good enough for autoland as a normal ground based ILS (or GLS). Check if you have good frequency tuned. (double check with P3D's map, navdata might not same with airport data due to time changes)

    BTW, 737 could actually autoland with only 1 AP engaged (auto flare and retard), but it could not met the requirement of reliability, so it's not allowed.

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  • MeatServo
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    False localizer in mountainous terrain IMC is no fun.

  • Emi
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    You either press the APP button too early (no GS in range yet) or your scenery does not have an ILS on the tuned frequency.
    In real life we only press the APP button some few miles out of the FAP to avoid certain issues which can happen at longer range. Prior to that we fly it in with LNAV/VNAV if we're cleared for the ILS a long way out.

    Apart from that, all you need for an autoland is the correct frequency on both sides, correct course on both sides and you MUST engage the second autopilot before 800RA.
    By 350ftRA FLARE has to be armed (should happen automatically if the above steps have been followed correctly but better watch it darn close!).
    Well, the rest is in the FCOM.

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  • Captain Bakon
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    Tried doing that but I noticed that it says G/P instead of G/S is that why?

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  • speedbird5
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    Originally posted by Captain Bakon View Post
    I have both ILS and course radios tuned in but the autoland never engages, normally on the 777 and 747 it does it automatically but not the NGXu. What am I missing here?
    Both Nav sets tuned to correct ILS frequency and both course selectors set to published finals course. Then first ensure APP is armed (VOR/LOC and GS annunciated in white on FMA) on MCP then engage both Autopilots.

    That’s what I do in the real aircraft.
    Last edited by speedbird5; 20Nov2019, 06:28.

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  • Captain Bakon
    started a topic How to autoland?

    How to autoland?

    How do you autoland the 737? I have both ILS and course radios tuned in but the autoland never engages, normally on the 777 and 747 it does it automatically but not the NGXu. What am I missing here?
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