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  • Rhett
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    Hi all,

    Here is a PMDG post someone pointed me to on the issue.

    https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...nce-discussion

    Regards,

    Rhett


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  • Rhett
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    Absolutely the same poor performance issues to report from my side. I remember after purchasing the NGXu on the 1st day it was released that the performance at night seemed OK. Now, whether it is due to updates or not, performance is very poor at night from the VC. The key issue is that the performance is much much worse than the original NGX and all other PMDG aircraft (which I own). One of the the best features of the original NGX was that I could always get 30 FPS locked no matter what time of day and no matter which airport. Better than most other high-end aircraft. Now flying the NGXu version for me is not really that enjoyable anymore (at least at night). Not smooth.

    I am still looking through the forum for posts concerning the poor performance of the NGXu. It seems to me that PMDG have not responded to any of the posts on performance but I may be wrong. I am sure they must be aware of it - but it is not evident from any of the responses / forum threads.

    Does anyone know if this issue has been acknowledged by PMDG and if they have any recommendations / advice / solutions for users.

    Cheers,

    Rhett

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  • Nac301
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    Problem solved ...New screendriver fix it ...remember to delete shaders
    an restart computer ..:-)

  • Terblanche
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    On my rig it is only AT NIGHT ... during the day, the FPS are smooth and not fluctuating up and down and sideways. But at NIGHT, even standing still at the gate, the FPS are a dismal 14+ which is only aggravated if the airport has its own DL.

    I've started a thread on this specific topic with attached screenshots because it seems PMDG does not believe us ...
    https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...night-fps-drop

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  • Jasper
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    Same as everyone else. After the last update what should increase performance did the direct opposite.
    A significant decrease in performance is noticeable very disappointing.
    The release NGXu was better on performance and even that performance was bad compared to all the other PMDG releases.

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  • Nac301
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    Frames is back in shape but dynamic lightning sucks i have too switch off because my screen flick cracy

    ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME,i7-6800K u3.1 LGA2011-3, DDR4 3000MHz 32GB @4.2 Ghz

    ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 08G
    Last edited by Nac301; 21Nov2019, 12:14.

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  • WGMD54
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    Same over here, FPS on original release was 'so so', got worse after the update.
    Running standard settings in P3D on a i7-7700/4.2GHz plus a GTX 1080.
    It's a pity, because PMDG released a really beautifull new 737. Grounded over here until further notice.

    Willem Dellemijn

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  • fahdriyami
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    Hey PMDG, the Ryzen 4950X and RTX 3080 Ti aren't out yet. 😂

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  • joeporter
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    Running a 1080ti/4.2 CPU and am seeing the same decrease in performance, Maybe 30% degradation over the original release.

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  • DKB
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    On my system the NGXu has a really bad performance especially at night with all the DL. Compared to the 747 and 777 it is definitly worse for me. I use heavy scenery like EDDF and never had a problem with PMDG products before.










    Ibbo Wolff

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  • skyteam78
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    Same here. I can add that performance after last update is even worse. [8700K @ 5.2Ghz, 2080TI].

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  • skopac
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    Same here, terrible performance..

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  • von
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    My performance about the same before and after the update with initial tests at FSDT KORD FPS locked at 30 FO display Off I get 22 to 28 FPS day/nighttime HUD in use /lights On /Off/at the gate or runway tests / smooth panning / no problems to report.

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  • AirBadger
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    Originally posted by Tino View Post

    That's something I never tried yet. I will have to take a look. I appreciate the suggestion!

    After looking at the display settings in the B748, they show the same default values as the NGXu:


    By the looks of it, the B748 has it set to unlimited as well? Or am I missing something?
    Ah, for some reason I thought it had a default limit on FPS. It still might be worth comparing with a limit on the Xu's displays. They're way smoother than what's in the 747, but maybe that comes at a cost in performance.

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  • Tino
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    Originally posted by AirBadger View Post

    Sorry, I wasn't clear - I meant the refresh rate on the PFD/ND of the NGXu. One variable that's different vs. the 747 is that the displays are set to unlimited by default, whereas I believe the 747 has a limit of 25 or something close to that.
    That's something I never tried yet. I will have to take a look. I appreciate the suggestion!

    After looking at the display settings in the B748, they show the same default values as the NGXu:

    Display Settings FMC.JPG

    By the looks of it, the B748 has it set to unlimited as well? Or am I missing something?
    Last edited by Tino; 16Nov2019, 18:42.

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  • AirBadger
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    Originally posted by Tino View Post

    I always set my FPS limiter to Unlimited simply because the frames tank on my system. This goes for any aircraft. Having it at unlimited keeps it smooth. I don't tweak any of the CFG files.
    Sorry, I wasn't clear - I meant the refresh rate on the PFD/ND of the NGXu. One variable that's different vs. the 747 is that the displays are set to unlimited by default, whereas I believe the 747 has a limit of 25 or something close to that.

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  • Tino
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    Originally posted by AirBadger View Post

    Out of curiosity, what happens when you try that same scenario with an FPS limit on the NGXu displays that matches the 747's?
    I always set my FPS limiter to Unlimited simply because the frames tank on my system. This goes for any aircraft. Having it at unlimited keeps it smooth. I don't tweak any of the CFG files either.

    EDIT - Sorry I may have misread your question. Are you talking about the FPS of the displays or the sim limiter?
    Last edited by Tino; 16Nov2019, 18:37.

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  • AirBadger
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    Originally posted by Tino View Post
    Here is a comparison with default weather and same position with the NGXu and B747-8:

    2019-11-16_10-5-41-8.jpg
    2019-11-16_10-3-27-125.jpg

    The B748 is butter smooth with mid to high 40's. The NGXu frames are unstable and vary between 20 - 35 frames. I've been testing a lot since the last update and can't seem to find a happy balance. Any external views are fine, though.
    Out of curiosity, what happens when you try that same scenario with an FPS limit on the NGXu displays that matches the 747's?

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  • Tino
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    Here is a comparison with default weather and same position with the NGXu and B747-8:

    2019-11-16_10-5-41-8.jpg
    2019-11-16_10-3-27-125.jpg

    The B748 is butter smooth with mid to high 40's. The NGXu frames are unstable and vary between 20 - 35 frames. I've been testing a lot since the last update and can't seem to find a happy balance. Any external views are fine, though.

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  • Erkas
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    NGXu Needs update Urgently (

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  • georgiosgiannoukos
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    Hello, I honestly never experienced so horrible, so Low FPS, SO Bad performance for a longtime now. (B737 NGXu P3D4.5 HF2) 9300v
    i was not able to have a flight so far since i purchase three days ago. With FSLabs 319/320 at the same airport I use now for the B737, have 35-38 FPS. Now with B737 barely 7-8.
    is that possible? I can not believe how it is.
    Any advise from the Devs please?
    Win 10 64bit i7 6700k 4,5 Ghz 32GB Ram GTX 1080ti
    Hope that wasn't just as a prepaid for the MSFS 2020 737 NG3
    if not fixed that should be a big disappointment
    George
    Last edited by georgiosgiannoukos; 16Nov2019, 18:05.

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  • Wothan
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    I just had a nice flight from Oslo ENGM (Aerosoft) to DĂźsseldorf EDDL (Justsim).
    The Aircraft performed well, but as others has seen - performance is not good.

    I know my system isn´t the latest, but with other addons - also PMDG (747, 777, 737NGX) I get better performance.

    Normally I can hold FPS in the low 20th, even at large airports, like Aerosoft Frankfurt and Taxi2Gate Munich, with the PMDG 747 QOS II.

    With the 9030 update of the PMDG 737NGXu though I saw 17 FPS at ENGM and not getting above 25 FPS at cruise altitude, whereas I normally see FPS at 30-50 in cruise with all other addons.
    I also got other addons with DL that doen´t have such an huge impact on performance.

    So something is not right in my eyes.

    Finn Jacobsen

    i7 3770 3.4Ghz, 16GB RAM, GTX 960 4GB, Win 7 64bit Home edition (don´t tell it´s my OS, cause thats not the case !!)

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  • Stefan_888
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    Originally posted by Wise87 View Post

    You know something is up when the labs runs smoother, LOL
    Funny but true..
    HAAHAHAHA :.D

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  • Wise87
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    Originally posted by Griff View Post

    Yes, I've noticed the same thing. I can't seem to figure out what is killing the frames after touchdown but hopefully the developers can narrow it down.
    Only PMDG knows what they changed between initial release and the 9930 update that could affect performance. There are to many reports and different hardware for this to be isolated issues. I'm sure they will figure it out hopefully. PMDG is known for releasing great planes with great performance. You know something is up when the labs runs smoother, LOL

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  • Mroberts95
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    Originally posted by Griff View Post

    Yes, I've noticed the same thing. I can't seem to figure out what is killing the frames after touchdown but hopefully the developers can narrow it down.
    Agreed,
    even on a 9900k and 2080ti, once I touch down it seems to get laggy, not sure why. Rest of the flight is fine and once I reload it goes away..

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  • Griff
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    Originally posted by Wise87 View Post
    I forgot to add, last night I flew the NGXu into KIAD during the Vatsim FNO and upon tough down my GPU pegged and my performance tanked all the way to the gate. I switched to the original NGX with same setting to fly out of KIAD and my performance was smooth and my GPU wasn’t maxed out.
    Yes, I've noticed the same thing. I can't seem to figure out what is killing the frames after touchdown but hopefully the developers can narrow it down.

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  • Nac301
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    Massive stuttering frames from 28 (locked 30) to 4 ..............have too wait for better update or drop it

    ASUS RAMPAGE V EXTREME,i7-6800K u3.1 LGA2011-3, DDR4 3000MHz 32GB @4.2 Ghz

    ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 08G

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  • Timma
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    Now unfortunately after the new update im seeing the same performance drop at night and upon landing all other pmdg AC are much smoother even fslabs runs better.

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  • Wise87
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    I forgot to add, last night I flew the NGXu into KIAD during the Vatsim FNO and upon tough down my GPU pegged and my performance tanked all the way to the gate. I switched to the original NGX with same setting to fly out of KIAD and my performance was smooth and my GPU wasn’t maxed out.

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  • Bcrawley57
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    I too noticed an immediate decrease in smoothness. I don,t care about FPS as long as its smooth, but definite decrease in smoothness after the latest update. 6700 with 32gb RAM and GTX 1070.

    EDIT. I have played around with settings changing MSAA from 4 to * and Anisotropic from 16 to 8. Also unchecked Mipmap VC panels. It is smoother, although I have no idea what I am doing .
    Last edited by Bcrawley57; 16Nov2019, 07:54. Reason: Update on settings

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