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    Rudderpedals problem

    After updating to P3dv5.3 HF1+ ,I have had problems with the rudder pedals in 737 800NGXu. The brakes are moving, but I am not able to move the pedals in the cockpit. I use MFG pedals and they are ok with all other planes I have tested. I have deleted and made new Control Configuration file for the rudder, but nothing helps. Can anyone help me solve this problem?
    Tor Arild Danielsen

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    I'm a little confused here. Is it just the rudder pedals in the flight deck that don't move or does the rudder itself not work at all. When the plane is moving and you use the rudder, does anything happen.
    Captain Kevin

    Kevin Yang

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      #3
      When I move my rudder pedals, neither rudder pedals, nose gear or rudder move in the sim. When I tested it now, the rudder pedals in the sim moved three times, and stopped. I have not seen this before.
      Tor Arild

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        #4
        How do you assign the pedals? Did you try the default P3D assignment and made sure there's no conficting assignment anywhere such as in FSUIPC?

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          Originally posted by Adaniel View Post
          When I move my rudder pedals, neither rudder pedals, nose gear or rudder move in the sim. When I tested it now, the rudder pedals in the sim moved three times, and stopped. I have not seen this before.
          It's still not clear to me if the plane is moving or not. The nose gear won't move if the plane isn't moving. Also check to make sure you have auto-rudder disabled in the P3D settings.
          Captain Kevin

          Kevin Yang

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            #6
            I am only able to taxe straight forward, no turning is possible. The pedals are assigned directly in P3d as recommended by MFG. There is no double assignments in the sim, in other controls or in Fsuipc. I wander if there has come a new controller after the last update, Mouse Drag Pan? What is that? There are no assignments in this controller.
            Tor Arild

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              #7
              Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
              It's still not clear to me if the plane is moving or not. The nose gear won't move if the plane isn't moving. Also check to make sure you have auto-rudder disabled in the P3D settings.
              It should though. You need to hold the tiller to avoid the nosewheel from moving when you're stationary on the ground while turning the pedals. 3000psi of hydraulic pressure can do a *lot*. Most certainly they can damage nosewheel tires if you don't hold the tiller during the flight control check.

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                Originally posted by Adaniel View Post
                I am only able to taxe straight forward, no turning is possible. The pedals are assigned directly in P3d as recommended by MFG. There is no double assignments in the sim, in other controls or in Fsuipc. I wander if there has come a new controller after the last update, Mouse Drag Pan? What is that? There are no assignments in this controller.
                Tor Arild
                Is there any tiller assignment? Could you post a screenshot of the exact assignments you did in the FMC options page regarding nose wheel steering?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Adaniel View Post
                  I am only able to taxe straight forward, no turning is possible. The pedals are assigned directly in P3d as recommended by MFG. There is no double assignments in the sim, in other controls or in Fsuipc. I wander if there has come a new controller after the last update, Mouse Drag Pan? What is that? There are no assignments in this controller.
                  Again, check your P3D settings to see if you have auto-rudder enabled. If you do, disable it and see if that solves it.
                  Originally posted by Emi View Post
                  It should though. You need to hold the tiller to avoid the nosewheel from moving when you're stationary on the ground while turning the pedals. 3000psi of hydraulic pressure can do a *lot*. Most certainly they can damage nosewheel tires if you don't hold the tiller during the flight control check.
                  I will defer to your expertise as far as the actual airplane is concerned. I've just never seen the nose wheel move on any PMDG plane if the plane wasn't moving.
                  Captain Kevin

                  Kevin Yang

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                    I will defer to your expertise as far as the actual airplane is concerned. I've just never seen the nose wheel move on any PMDG plane if the plane wasn't moving.
                    I never actually did a flight control check from the outside, so I can't really comment what PMDG is doing.
                    I do also not recall the tiller moving when the airplane is stationary in the NGXu, so maybe PMDG simply simulates the captain holding the tiller? Can't tell though what the background is as I never really dug into it in terms of the simulation.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Emi View Post
                      I never actually did a flight control check from the outside, so I can't really comment what PMDG is doing.
                      I do also not recall the tiller moving when the airplane is stationary in the NGXu, so maybe PMDG simply simulates the captain holding the tiller? Can't tell though what the background is as I never really dug into it in terms of the simulation.
                      As far as PMDG is concerned, the flight controls do work when the plane is stationary. The tiller and nose wheel doesn't move when the plane is stationary.
                      Captain Kevin

                      Kevin Yang

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                        #12
                        I have never used autorudder or assignet the nosewheel tiller. Everything in my sim has been ok for a long time, but it changed after the last update. I have now deleted and reinstalled the 737 NGXu, and the problem is still there. I think that it has to do with the sim, and not the 737, but it is strange that the rudder moves on other planes both default and addon planes. I am afraid that my next step will be to delete and reinstall the whole sim.
                        Tor Arild

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                          #13
                          I am a little embarrassed now. I am not sure, but I think my rudder problems is a result of serious hydraulic failure in the 737 800 NGXu model. I was able to start the engines, but had problems to turn the aircraft when taxeing. If I had followed the checklists I would have understood it. I have now repaired the failures, but I have not testet out the aircraft yet. Thank you for trying to help me!
                          Tor Arild

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                            #14
                            2021-12-31_11-32-23-468.jpg My problems are not gone as I hoped. In PMDG setup in the FMC it was two hydraulic failures. I deleted the failures, and got a message that there were no active failures. I started the engines , but the Low pressure lamps were still lightened in the overhead panel. I then restarted the sim, and then the failures are back in the FMC. Is this a known bug?
                            Tor Arild

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                              DDowns commented
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                              It is not enough to clear the HYD A failure in the Failures menu. You need to use the FS Actions Ground Maintenance menu to fill the hydraulic systems. I see this pesky fault maybe once in every 20 sessions, no need to nuke the panel files.

                            #15
                            This is a total shot in the dark, but have you tried deleting any saved panel states? So when you load the plane in the sim it loads with the engines running.
                            I am on P3D v4 so I am not sure where they are put in v5.
                            Regards, Orjan Polman.
                            ENGM

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                              #16
                              I have tried changing the Panel Statefrom Short to Long, but still the same Failures. I have also deleted and reinstalled the 737.
                              Tor Arild

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                                #17
                                Still, this points to corrupt panel states as you start up with hydraulic failures which you did not introduce yourself. PMDG does not supply these at the installation.
                                Just delete all of them, to make sure they do not intervene.
                                Last edited by Fleng200; 31Dec2021, 12:30.
                                René Moelaert EHLE

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