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So, useless WXR from ASOBO... Is WXR now dead?

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    So, useless WXR from ASOBO... Is WXR now dead?

    Hello!
    As ASOBO seems not willed to provide any good dev-background for WXR, do we have to write off WXR for PMDG in MSFS?
    Or is there a way for 3rd party devs to develop something in this regard?

    Thank you!
    Klaus Schmitzer

    #2
    I suspect the honest answer from most would be ‘we don’t know.’

    The question becomes are we better off having the wrong thing right (can’t do much with the data, so we’ll do nothing), or the right thing wrong then work on making it less wrong (we have some stuff, it’s not very good, but we’ll see where it takes us).

    I don’t think our hosts can win here. Vocal members of either camp will complain.
    Mike Dryden
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      #3
      Originally posted by Mickel View Post
      I suspect the honest answer from most would be ‘we don’t know.’

      The question becomes are we better off having the wrong thing right (can’t do much with the data, so we’ll do nothing), or the right thing wrong then work on making it less wrong (we have some stuff, it’s not very good, but we’ll see where it takes us).

      I don’t think our hosts can win here. Vocal members of either camp will complain.
      Yeah - it's a sad situation.

      I guess all we can do is try to keep pressure on Asobo, as I'm sure PMDG and other devs are trying to do too. The whole weather SDK needs to be opened up much more IMHO. Not sure why Asobo seems so reluctant to do this. Any ideas? I'd normally think it would be something to do with a commercial arrangement they may have in place - but I can't imagine what that would be in this case.

      Anyway, perhaps an interim solution would be to have the option of having it as it currently is, or not having it at all - selectable from the new tablet? That way neither camp could complain with any credibility about what PMDG are providing.
      Greg N.
      Avionics Systems Software Engineer

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        #4
        Originally posted by Schmegg View Post

        Not sure why Asobo seems so reluctant to do this. Any ideas?
        Probably because they chose a provider who doesn't provide what's actually needed for a sim

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        • Crabby
          Crabby commented
          Editing a comment
          I suspect a licensing issue. The data is obviously there. Third party use of the data for paid addons may not be something Asobo/Meteo thought of when agreements were entered into.

        • Schmegg
          Schmegg commented
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          I reckon you're both right.

          It seems to me the way forward, that would benefit the simulator community the best, would be to open up the weather system with a well thought-out and complete interface by way of an SDK. That way third party developers could develop alternative weather systems that use their own data sources to construct the environment. MetoBlue will still get their money and have their IP protected (as there would be no need to expose any of their IP over the interface), but it would be possible to bypass it completely with a third-party add-on if so desired. Surely Asobo and MS weren't so stupid as to sign up to a contract that prevents this! (having just said that ... hmm. LOL)

        #5
        It definitely needs to be pushed on them. I have tried bringing it up so many times over at the MSFS forums, but many seem to have given up on it. Opening up the weather system allows for great 3rd party weather engines such as ActiveSky and REX. Obviously also allowing devs to use a weather radar for their aircraft. It is a shame they are closed off to it because of the possibility of a agreement with another provider that has them locking down the weather system. They need to find a way to have different methods for weather like a toggle slider and such for choosing weather from A provider or B which is open source and such.
        Sergio Gutierrez

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          #6
          Aren’t they still sourcing weather from the Medeoblue partnership?
          George Morris

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            #7
            Please vote and bump this topic, it seems the only thing we can do is to let this number grow (currently 2280):

            https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t...-uplink/442016
            Klaus Schmitzer

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