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    #31
    I never ask for a refund because it is a digital product. However if a product has serious problems like not work at all I will ask for credit to purchase another aircraft later. Not sure if PMDG does that and I really think they are the best and most dependable. There are a couple of other companies with GA aircraft that do excellent work. When I ask for credit to replace a plane that has issues with a nice detailed request they give me credit. That all said I buy a product the sim, I am ok if I am stuck with it if no store credit is offered.
    Dean Salman

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    • matrosov
      matrosov commented
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      But that's just it. This product has no serious issues. It has some annoyances that are acknowledged and are being worked on, but issues? Far from those. I just don't get this drama with some folks and temper tantrums.

    #32
    And on that note time for a weekend update from RSR where he drops a T7 on my head followed by a ban hammer. .
    Aleks Matrosov

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      #33
      I went fishing today instead of going to work. I did not catch any fish. In fact, I have not caught a single fish since I purchased the 737. If that does not scream "obviously not working right" I don't know what does and don't try and pull that "it's just a coincidence conspiracy theory" on me.
      Mark "Crabby" Crabtree AAL311 | PHL
      I7-9700KF | 2070 Super | Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo | MFG Crosswind

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      • mtrainer
        mtrainer commented
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        Grew up in Louisiana, went on plenty of fishing trips with dad. Some were a complete bust (Lake Bistino / Plain Dealing / Toledo Bend). Try this place if you can, "Greenbriar River" in West Virginia near White Sulpher Springs. Watched my uncle reel in a fish on nearly every cast! Blew me away.

      #34
      Originally posted by Crabby View Post
      I went fishing today instead of going to work. I did not catch any fish. In fact, I have not caught a single fish since I purchased the 737. If that does not scream "obviously not working right" I don't know what does and don't try and pull that "it's just a coincidence conspiracy theory" on me.
      I‘d ask for a refund for that fishing license
      Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k
      Marc Eland
      GFO Beta

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      • Crabby
        Crabby commented
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        not the license. It worked. From January until I installed the 737 I was slaying the bass. Now, nothing. I am sure it is because the LNAV update was not included in the last product update.

      #35
      Originally posted by Crabby View Post
      I went fishing today instead of going to work. I did not catch any fish. In fact, I have not caught a single fish since I purchased the 737. If that does not scream "obviously not working right" I don't know what does and don't try and pull that "it's just a coincidence conspiracy theory" on me.
      Are you sure you went fishing and not to have a "boating accident"? Boating accidents are not covered by refund policy.
      Aleks Matrosov

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      • Crabby
        Crabby commented
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        No, no boating accident, although I was going over notes and I am starting to think that since there is a LACK of fish and there is a LACK of EFB those must somehow be related.

      #36
      IBTL...767-300 for MSFS please.
      PMDG Cultist...Chris Honke (CYYZ)

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      • NegativeApproach
        NegativeApproach commented
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        Perhaps you could include this wish of yours in the signature field instead of writing the same all over the forum? Just a thought. - Christoph Linden

      #37
      Except that there is no EFB yet, there are no other problems. I just haven't touched the 737 since FENIX was released. I regret it a little. I should wait for -800, -700 is too small.
      Dong Li
      China
      Flight sim enthusiast

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        #38
        Originally posted by Boomer View Post
        IBTL...767-300 for MSFS please.
        Negative GhostRider, the pattern is full.
        PMDG Cultist...Chris Honke (CYYZ)

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          #39
          I think part of the problem is that people forget they are buying a study level Boeing aircraft which according to my copy of Bill Bulfers 737 Cockpit Companion book behaves exactly like the real aircraft. I have run all kinds of obscure maintenance checks on multiple systems and yet to find anything which doesn't behave as the book says it should. This is not something a newcomer to flight simulation can just jump into and go and fly. It takes patience to get all the controls configured properly and you need to study the manuals before you can get off the ground. Its not the plane that needs fixing.
          Eddie Zetlein, Surrey.

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            #40
            Here is a test you can all try if you are interested. Get in the cold dark cockpit, switch on the battery and set a stop watch. Now go to the Upper Overhead panel and test the Captain and F.O's stall warning test.......................you should get a negative response. Overspeed clacker test is working ok. Let the stop watch run, when it gets to 4 minutes try the stall warning test again. Now it will work. That is how the real plane behaves. So if you find the stall warning test not working, its because not enough time has elapsed. This is how deeply modelled PMDG have taken it.
            Eddie Zetlein, Surrey.

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            • Bob_Z
              Bob_Z commented
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              Many, many of the users of MSFS are interested in "games" that one can startup and play. Many, if not most, of the default aircraft are kick the tires and light the fires. Along comes PMDG and Fenix with aircraft pointed to those who want a realistic sim and enjoy the complexity. These befuddle the users who don't want to study and learn more complex airplanes.

            #41
            Exactly, the point is it takes many months to learn to fly a 737. It rewards the person who studies the systems and logic that Boeing and PMDG have built into the airplane. To many un-informed users it can appear that things are broken, when in fact, it is working correctly, but the user has mis-configured the various panels because they haven't read the manuals or followed a proper checklist. If you were rich enough to buy a real 737 from Boeing, would you ask for your money back because you couldn't fly it? Its your problem, not theirs, yet people will buy a study sim aircraft when they have no idea how to fly a Cessna 172 , let alone a 737 and then ask for their money back because of their own lack of knowledge and patience. All they want is plug and play. With this plane, you get exactly how much back as you put into understanding what makes it tick. If you haven't got the commitment , don't buy the aircraft. Its as simple as that.
            Eddie Zetlein, Surrey.

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