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    #31
    I have VIRPIL controls and rudder pedals. Same thing here, but no issue with the FBWA320...This is a great aircraft--maybe its a setting issue with the rudder choices?? IDK.

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      #32
      Same issue here, using racing pedals. Nothing funky going on with assistance or flight assistant options either. Binds are all correct too.
      Will F.

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        #33

        i have the same problem, use xbox controller for rudder.

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          #34
          Originally posted by lrye1 View Post

          Yeah, I'm seeing more and more people are having this problem and have come to the same conclusions as I have with the way the rudder axis is programmed with the plane. So, I'm glad I'm not alone at least 🙂

          I think someone in another thread said that they opened a support ticket and the PMDG staff are aware of the issue, hopefully, it gets fixed in the next day or two.
          I asked support via support ticket and received the following answer yesterday:

          “Will pass it to the team, not sure if can be achievable due to the custom coding we are using though.“




          Dennis Baensch

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dennis_Eb View Post

            I asked support via support ticket and received the following answer yesterday:

            “Will pass it to the team, not sure if can be achievable due to the custom coding we are using though.“




            Dennis Baensch
            It's going to need to be achievable if they ever want to see Xbox players buy this plane when the WASM on Xbox issue is resolved.
            Tim Stanton
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              #36
              COnsidering requesting refund since I can't use the game due to this.....

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                #37
                Originally posted by paul14075 View Post
                COnsidering requesting refund since I can't use the game due to this.....
                Let us know how that goes.
                Daniel Anziano
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Dennis_Eb View Post

                  I asked support via support ticket and received the following answer yesterday:

                  “Will pass it to the team, not sure if can be achievable due to the custom coding we are using though.“




                  Dennis Baensch
                  That’s interesting. I have the FBW A32NX and I’m sure they use custom coding as well. I’m able to taxi that aircraft just fine using my Xbox controller. Maybe they will get it fixed.

                  Branden Elliott
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                    #39
                    Was able to work around the problem by changing nose wheel steering to PROP1-AXIS (in FMC), and setting prop1 axis to the same as my aileron axis on gamepad in FS settings. Now I can steer plane with gamepad joystick, BUT IT'S REVERSED (left is right)..... And...enabling/disabling REVERSE AXIS on the PROP1 AXIS doesn't fix it. Sighhhhhh. AT least I was able to fly it though.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by paul14075 View Post
                      Was able to work around the problem by changing nose wheel steering to PROP1-AXIS (in FMC), and setting prop1 axis to the same as my aileron axis on gamepad in FS settings. Now I can steer plane with gamepad joystick, BUT IT'S REVERSED (left is right)..... And...enabling/disabling REVERSE AXIS on the PROP1 AXIS doesn't fix it. Sighhhhhh. AT least I was able to fly it though.
                      Very interesting. Will give it a try on next outing.

                      I was able to assign a trigger on the controller to accurately hold the rudder. Unfortunately it only worked on the left side using the left rudder assignment but it made the right rudder even more erratic to the point that I went back to the full axis assignment. It takes a lot of feathering of the triggers to keep it on track but it is manageable. At least until a fix is applied. The fact that it can work on one of the two trigger axis is testament that they can fix this.
                      Daniel Anziano
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                        #41
                        I can control the rudder with my CH Pro Pedals, but it much too sensitive. Unable to hold centerline on TO, veers all over the place.
                        Bob Zolto
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                          #42
                          Same issue here. i do not understand. It worked yesterday just fine then suddenly today nothing. I have tried all advice - no keyboard commands, only left axis, or using rudder axis, etc. The rudder works fine with all other planes. If you restart when you load into the 737 and go to external view, the rudder works a few times then locks up. FMC set both ways. Rudder axis only = nope, and Prop1+rudder = nope. If you start on the runway and ignore it, the auto pilot will go haywire and will not stay on; therefore, even the AP can't control it.

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                            #43
                            not sure if this will help anyone but i was forgetting to turn the electric hydraulic pumps on. once doing so, my ridder is fine with default x-axis and FMC settings

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                              #44
                              What FMC setting?
                              Bob Zolto

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by RogerWilco6 View Post
                                not sure if this will help anyone but i was forgetting to turn the electric hydraulic pumps on. once doing so, my ridder is fine with default x-axis and FMC settings
                                That happened to me a few years ago when I started to really learn the NGX and forgot to turn on hydraulics but it’s different with this. The rudder will move left or right but quickly moves to the center and it becomes jerky and twitchy when she’s turning. I’m curious, where you using an Xbox controller?
                                Rocky Jet Melendez
                                RTX Zotac Gaming 3090ti. -12 Gen intel core i9-12900K CPU. -MSI Z690 Force Wifi MB, -OLOY DDR5 32gb RAM EVGA 1300 Gold PSU
                                Kraken 3 Fan Water Cooler with Crytoech. -Phantek Case-TPR Rudder pedals-Boeing Throttle/Yoke Edition pack
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                                  #46
                                  Originally posted by Rocky Jet Melendez View Post

                                  That happened to me a few years ago when I started to really learn the NGX and forgot to turn on hydraulics but it’s different with this. The rudder will move left or right but quickly moves to the center and it becomes jerky and twitchy when she’s turning. I’m curious, where you using an Xbox controller?
                                  Yeah same here, this isn't a hydraulic issue. because the rudder turns and then snaps right back to the center position. I was really hoping we'd have a bug fix update out by now
                                  Lucas Rye
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                                    #47
                                    Originally posted by lrye1 View Post

                                    Yeah same here, this isn't a hydraulic issue. because the rudder turns and then snaps right back to the center position. I was really hoping we'd have a bug fix update out by now
                                    I’m positive it will get fixed it’s just gonna take a bit and hopefully once Mr. Randazzo and the team figure it out a long with other issues it will be released for patching.
                                    Rocky Jet Melendez
                                    RTX Zotac Gaming 3090ti. -12 Gen intel core i9-12900K CPU. -MSI Z690 Force Wifi MB, -OLOY DDR5 32gb RAM EVGA 1300 Gold PSU
                                    Kraken 3 Fan Water Cooler with Crytoech. -Phantek Case-TPR Rudder pedals-Boeing Throttle/Yoke Edition pack
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                                      #48
                                      Originally posted by Rocky Jet Melendez View Post

                                      That happened to me a few years ago when I started to really learn the NGX and forgot to turn on hydraulics but it’s different with this. The rudder will move left or right but quickly moves to the center and it becomes jerky and twitchy when she’s turning. I’m curious, where you using an Xbox controller?
                                      No I am using a HOTAS X-56 Thrustmaster
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                                        #49
                                        Hello guys.I have the same problem with gamepad.
                                        And here is a temporary solution that works quite well.
                                        In the settings we find rudder control for one axis, not left and right (I don’t know what this item is called in English, i used google translate) and bind LB+LS there (LB can be replaced with another button, but for me this is the most convenient option).In the fms settings turn on rudder axis only. Now we can taxi and flight by LB+ left stick =)
                                        But if someone wants to make separate control of the rudder and the steering wheel, then in FMS we turn on "prop1 axis and rudder" and additionally bind the steering wheel through PROP1 AXIS in the settings (NOT control of the steering wheel). For example, RB+LS. Now we can taxi by RB+LS and flight by LB+LS.

                                        Sorry for bad english. Good luck =)

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                                          #50
                                          Originally posted by eyebeam View Post
                                          Hello guys.I have the same problem with gamepad.
                                          And here is a temporary solution that works quite well.
                                          In the settings we find rudder control for one axis, not left and right (I don’t know what this item is called in English, i used google translate) and bind LB+LS there (LB can be replaced with another button, but for me this is the most convenient option).In the fms settings turn on rudder axis only. Now we can taxi and flight by LB+ left stick =)
                                          But if someone wants to make separate control of the rudder and the steering wheel, then in FMS we turn on "prop1 axis and rudder" and additionally bind the steering wheel through PROP1 AXIS in the settings (NOT control of the steering wheel). For example, RB+LS. Now we can taxi by RB+LS and flight by LB+LS.

                                          Sorry for bad english. Good luck =)
                                          That way you are not able to use the rudder at the same time as the ailerons? Can‘t imagine how items possible to Land like this during cross winds

                                          hopefully just a few days until they publish a patch

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                                            #51
                                            Originally posted by Dennis_Eb View Post

                                            That way you are not able to use the rudder at the same time as the ailerons? Can‘t imagine how items possible to Land like this during cross winds

                                            hopefully just a few days until they publish a patch
                                            But this is much better than the inability to get to the runway. That's why I wrote that it's temporary.
                                            Yesterday my flight ended on the pushback. Today I was able to take off and land the plane without any problem.

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                                              #52
                                              Originally posted by eyebeam View Post

                                              But this is much better than the inability to get to the runway. That's why I wrote that it's temporary.
                                              Yesterday my flight ended on the pushback. Today I was able to take off and land the plane without any problem.
                                              I understand, but as long as the plane has no working controls it’s grounded for me and waiting for a fix.
                                              The most fun for me is the start and landing and that wouldn’t work without proper control (well if there’s no crosswind at all, maybe)

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                                                #53
                                                For the time being I've made a little workaround script for Axis and Ohs:
                                                https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...und#post186725
                                                Marcel William

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                                                  #54
                                                  Free solution! Working for me. Joing two separated axis in one single axis.
                                                  https://github.com/Snoothy/UCR
                                                  Last edited by marcel432; 16May2022, 14:42.
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                                                    #54.1
                                                    MARSINATOR commented
                                                    16May2022, 14:42
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                                                    That's even better! I will give it a shot
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                                                    #54.2
                                                    MARSINATOR commented
                                                    16May2022, 15:31
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                                                    Update: Didn't work at first when out of focus but changing the input device to "Xbox Controller 1" solved that problem. Thank you, works perfectly!
                                                  • DeltaFlight84
                                                    #54.3
                                                    DeltaFlight84 commented
                                                    17May2022, 12:37
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                                                    how can i setup this method? can you please post some screen? thx in advance
                                                  #55
                                                  Originally posted by marcel432 View Post
                                                  Free solution! Working for me. Joing two separated axis in one single axis.
                                                  https://github.com/Snoothy/UCR
                                                  can you please post how to configure in your way that works? thx in advance
                                                  Coletta Domenico
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                                                  • marcel432
                                                    #55.1
                                                    marcel432 commented
                                                    17May2022, 15:15
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                                                    Solution below!
                                                    There is another option (Average, I forgot 2 others), if it doesn't work at first, pause the UCR, change the option and click on run UCR again
                                                  #56


                                                  Don't forget to turn on the hydraulic pumps before testing!
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                                                  • DeltaFlight84
                                                    #56.1
                                                    DeltaFlight84 commented
                                                    17May2022, 18:07
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                                                    in the outputs devices i don't any voice regard xbox controller
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                                                    #56.2
                                                    MARSINATOR commented
                                                    17May2022, 18:27
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                                                    DeltaFlight84 You have to add a virtual output device to the profile in the main window first.
                                                  #57

                                                  Sorry man, I'm not close to my pc. I did a quick search and forgot it needs the dependency library
                                                  https://github.com/ViGEm/ViGEmBus/re...etup-v1.17.333

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                                                  • MARSINATOR
                                                    #57.1
                                                    MARSINATOR commented
                                                    17May2022, 18:32
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                                                    Worked out of the box without this for me.
                                                  • DeltaFlight84
                                                    #57.2
                                                    DeltaFlight84 commented
                                                    17May2022, 18:57
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                                                    thx for those explanations but i need a tutorial for this maybe i do wrong some steps
                                                  #58
                                                  I had the same problem. Usually, I use AAO for Input with a HOTAS Warthog and a TM16000 with twist axis. After discovering the 'flickering' in the rudder, I tried unbinding the rudder axis in AAO and assigning the axis in the sim itself (to the standard 'Rudder' binding), and it worked normally again. Just a workaround until they get it fixed. I use the 'Rudder axis only' setting in the MCDU, btw.

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