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    Nose gear stuck turning left

    I am having an issue with my nose gear being stuck to the left. I have the tiller functions turned off because I am using rudder pedals, but I cant seem to center my nose gear. Tried resetting failures and recalibrating my pedals to no avail. Any ideas?
    -Spencer Hoefer

    #2
    Hi Spencer,

    ideas yes... make sure you haven't accidentally activated autorudder in the realism settings of P3D. Also make sure there is no other axis assigned to the rudders. Maybe you have plugged in a new controller for another game? P3D would assign controls to it.
    i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
    Marc Ehnle

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      #3
      I'm going to submit this as a ticket because this is the only thread i've found regarding the issue and I have it too. Flight panel state has nothing to do with it because I used PMDG cold and dark, and I used multiple different models and liveries. I (ONLY on the ground) get my tiller stuck left. Rudder trim is center, rudder control on ENG/STAT page is center, but my nose wheels goes left. No failures, no flat tires, nothing. Just a left turning airplane.
      Josh Burr P3D v5.0.24.34874 Win 10
      i7-4790K GTX1080 8GB

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        #4
        And what happens if you DON'T use a panel state (if you have a start-up state set, remove it and see what happens).
        Captain Kevin

        Kevin Yang

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          #5
          I am going to jump in on this because it is happening to me as well. I have been noticing the past couple of weeks in the -400 and -8F. I will start up load a cold and dark panel state do all of my preflight as I normally would. I push and start and once I go to taxi my nose wheel is jammed to the right. I can almost straighten it out by applying full left rudder but not straight enough to taxi. This does not happen everytime, I would say it is happening 1 in every 4 flights. Typically I can restart everything and the second time around I taxi just fine.

          I do not have auto rudder on
          There are no axis conflicts
          The rudder is not trimmed off center
          No other aircraft PMDG or non-PMDG have this issue
          Rudder is not jammed to the right along with the wheel which is strange because I have checked and rechecked my axis configuration and I do not have a separate nosewheel axis.
          Last edited by Greyhound79; 01Jan2021, 17:23.
          Devin Davis

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            #6
            And what happens if you DON'T use a panel state (if you have a start-up state set, remove it and see what happens).
            Captain Kevin

            Kevin Yang

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              #7
              Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
              And what happens if you DON'T use a panel state (if you have a start-up state set, remove it and see what happens).
              Just loaded up in a 744 and started to taxi and everything was fine. However, in general this nose wheel problem is intermittent.
              Devin Davis

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                #8
                What axis did you assign it to and what controller are you using?

                It's also worth calibrating the controls. Sometimes I get this too, but my issue is the ever-cheap broken RZ axis of Thrustmaster T1600m.
                Best regards,
                Romano Lara

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jmrtlara View Post
                  What axis did you assign it to and what controller are you using?

                  It's also worth calibrating the controls. Sometimes I get this too, but my issue is the ever-cheap broken RZ axis of Thrustmaster T1600m.
                  Everything is calibrated, my nosewheel is bound to my rudder axis which is the twist on my X56 stick. The rudder is centered when the wheel is stuck, I can actually see the rudder moving as it should if I watch it but the wheel is just stuck.
                  Devin Davis

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                    #10
                    Guys,

                    this may sound stupid but I will just assume that you were total beginners and I ask a basic question, don‘t take it personal please:

                    please confirm/make sure that:

                    - autorudder in the sim is turned OFF.
                    - there are NO axes assigned that are not in use at the same time, not even virtual gaming mouse axes
                    - if you use FSUIPC for the tiller and/or rudder that you have always checked „aircraft specific profile“ before you made any changes and never accepted the question to use global assignments
                    - you have read and understood the introduction manual with regards of the tiller settings in the option menu and you set the tiller option if you use SEPERATED controls for tiller and rudder and deactivated the setting if you use the SAME hardware axis for both controls


                    might sound stupid, but I have seen confusions before.
                    i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
                    Marc Ehnle

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                      #11
                      No beginner here been simming for about 12 years, no offense taken though here are the answers to those questions.


                      - autorudder in the sim is turned OFF.

                      Verified Off

                      - there are NO axes assigned that are not in use at the same time, not even virtual gaming mouse axes

                      Checked this and no extra axis would be effecting my nose wheel. No virtual gaming mouse axis.

                      - if you use FSUIPC for the tiller and/or rudder that you have always checked „aircraft specific profile“ before you made any changes and never accepted the question to use global assignments

                      I do not have a registered FSUIPC

                      - you have read and understood the introduction manual with regards of the tiller settings in the option menu and you set the tiller option if you use SEPERATED controls for tiller and rudder and deactivated the setting if you use the SAME hardware axis for both controls

                      I have also checked this in the actual options menu and everything appears to be set correctly.


                      On a side note, I flew a 747-400 flight this weekend with no issues, this nose wheel thing only happens every three to four flights.


                      Devin Davis

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                        #12
                        Devin,

                        I think it‘s best to submit a ticket then. I can‘t imagine what the problem could be but I think I read about it before.
                        i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
                        Marc Ehnle

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ephedrin View Post
                          Devin,

                          I think it‘s best to submit a ticket then. I can‘t imagine what the problem could be but I think I read about it before.
                          Will do, thank you!
                          Devin Davis

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                            #14
                            I have experienced the exact same circumstance, I checked all the same things as previously mentioned. I never had this problem before, but I updated the 747V3 last night, and it will not stop turning the rudder to the right.

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                              #15
                              I've been experiencing this lately too. I have the standard rudder-pedals-as-steering setup like most other users- after engine start I needed full right rudder deflection in order to go straight, as well as almost full power: I had to double check to make sure chocks were out, and no other things amiss (hydraulic power, etc- perhaps the ground crew left in nosewheel steering pin).
                              Brendan R

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                                #16
                                Guys,

                                please submit a ticket. It seems that nobody here knows a solution but the guys at support can review their code and possibly have some notes etc. Maybe it‘s even an acknowledged bug.

                                support.pmdg.com
                                i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
                                Marc Ehnle

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bjratchf View Post
                                  ( perhaps the ground crew left in nosewheel steering pin).
                                  When the steering pin is still installed, you would not have this problem, but can only go straight forward.
                                  Because of the multiple incidents reported here, it does have our attention and we are looking into it.
                                  No solution can be guaranteed, as we are not able to reproduce the events in our own simulation which makes it very difficult in finding the culprit. But we are trying.
                                  René Moelaert EHLE

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                                    #18
                                    What Rene means is that our Beta team is checking this as well. Up to know it is not reproducible to any of the development machines or any of the betas.
                                    Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                                    PMDG Technical Support
                                    http://www.pmdg.com

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                                      #19
                                      All, below come from one of the users opened a ticket at support for this strange behavior. Just a note, this is still not reproducible in our systems or beta systems

                                      "I went to axis assignments and mapped my rudder pedals from the rudder axis, to the 'Axis Steering Set' to control the nosewheel. When I went back into the simulator, the nosewheel and tiller snapped back to the center, and I had control over the steering. I then went back and mapped my pedals back to the rudder axis, and the nosewheel steering still works. I have done several shutdowns and startups in the past half-hour and checked different panel states, and it seems to have been fixed up. I am not sure if it is a potential fix, but it might be worth sharing if anyone else has a similar issue."
                                      Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                                      PMDG Technical Support
                                      http://www.pmdg.com

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cmakris View Post
                                        All, below come from one of the users opened a ticket at support for this strange behavior. Just a note, this is still not reproducible in our systems or beta systems

                                        "I went to axis assignments and mapped my rudder pedals from the rudder axis, to the 'Axis Steering Set' to control the nosewheel. When I went back into the simulator, the nosewheel and tiller snapped back to the center, and I had control over the steering. I then went back and mapped my pedals back to the rudder axis, and the nosewheel steering still works. I have done several shutdowns and startups in the past half-hour and checked different panel states, and it seems to have been fixed up. I am not sure if it is a potential fix, but it might be worth sharing if anyone else has a similar issue."

                                        While this solution does work. It is very far from ideal. Every single time I set the parking brake it will snap over to the left or right without this rather arduous fix. The bug is tied to the release of the parking brake. Thank you for helping us.

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by [email protected] View Post


                                          While this solution does work. It is very far from ideal. Every single time I set the parking brake it will snap over to the left or right without this rather arduous fix. The bug is tied to the release of the parking brake. Thank you for helping us.
                                          Full name on all posts here please.

                                          And yet of the more than 10,000 users of this product there are few that experience this problem. I release the parking brake every session, as does everyone else. What is ideal is that PMDG noted that maybe eight or ten users had this problem and that it was unusual because everyone had different configuration, equipment, exact steps varied and yet they still dug into the problem trying to help. That's not too shabby.
                                          Dan Downs KCRP
                                          i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                                            #22
                                            It has occurred again for me, I have updated my ticket in the support center but wanted to share my photo of the nose gear stuck to the right but rudder centerlined. These are assigned to the exact same axis.
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                                            Devin Davis

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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Greyhound79 View Post
                                              It has occurred again for me, I have updated my ticket in the support center but wanted to share my photo of the nose gear stuck to the right but rudder centerlined. These are assigned to the exact same axis.
                                              Screenshot doesn't tell me much since you could have just the tiller cranked over to the right, in which case the nose gear would turn and not the rudder. But that said, when you say "these are assigned to the exact same axis", are you saying you have both the tiller AND the rudder assigned to the exact same axis.
                                              Captain Kevin

                                              Kevin Yang

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                                                #24
                                                Same thing happened to me recently, the first flight I tried to use trackIR. And there were a second time but this time with TrackIR off.
                                                This only happened after the most recent update and only for twice. I too have autorudder off, no conflict axis, tiller function off.
                                                I still can't figure out how to reproduce the problem, but this seems happened randomly.
                                                After the struggling taxi, the takeoff can't be done because the acceleration was too slow. I can't get enough speed even I use the full 12000Ft RWY. So I took off with slew, gear up and fly normally until I touch down on the destination RWY. The only fix I know was to restart the sim and it's normal again. Will try the temporary fix mentioned above if I encountered this next time.

                                                Chi-cheng Liu (Volleyball)

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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                                                  Screenshot doesn't tell me much since you could have just the tiller cranked over to the right, in which case the nose gear would turn and not the rudder. But that said, when you say "these are assigned to the exact same axis", are you saying you have both the tiller AND the rudder assigned to the exact same axis.
                                                  Well I wouldn't post a picture of me cranking the tiller over while keeping the rudder center. That just seems like I would be faking a problem that I could easily fix myself, why would I do that? With that out of the way, my rudder axis (the twist axis of my joystick) is also my nosewheel steering axis. So in normal operations while taxing if I twist the stick you can see the nosewheel turn and the rudder move at the same time.
                                                  Devin Davis

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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Greyhound79 View Post
                                                    Well I wouldn't post a picture of me cranking the tiller over while keeping the rudder center. That just seems like I would be faking a problem that I could easily fix myself, why would I do that?
                                                    Having been on this forum for as long as I have and having seen everything, I can never assume anything.
                                                    Originally posted by Greyhound79 View Post
                                                    With that out of the way, my rudder axis (the twist axis of my joystick) is also my nosewheel steering axis. So in normal operations while taxing if I twist the stick you can see the nosewheel turn and the rudder move at the same time.
                                                    Okay, I didn't know that. I didn't know what you had for settings, that's why I asked, because I use a separate tiller axis for the nose wheel steering.
                                                    Captain Kevin

                                                    Kevin Yang

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                                                      #27
                                                      If anyone of you who has that problem has a registered FSUIPC, could you delete all your rudder/tiller assignments in P3D and use the FSUIPC calibration? (Not send to sim as normal axis) Set it to rudder and activate (don‘t change, just expand) the rudder calibration in FSUIPC? Make sure that the axis moves correctly from + to - 16384 and try it again?

                                                      I have just remembered that I saw this axis behaviour in the Milviz King Air 350 for the right throttle. It always snapped to full throttle, I could move it but as soon as I stopped my hardware axis it snapped back to full. My problem was that the Config tool set the axis to 16383. Changed it to 16384 and the problem was gone. Don‘t ask me how long I searched the problem with their support.
                                                      i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
                                                      Marc Ehnle

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