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    4 engine throttle mapping

    I just picked up these jets the other day. any tips on mapping 4 turbines to the TM Warthog?
    Ro Faulk

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    #2
    If you have FSUIPC, you can map one lever to engines 1 and 2, and the other lever to engines 3 and 4.
    Captain Kevin

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    • Michael Codd
      Michael Codd commented
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      Ro. It might be better to map them 1 & 4; and 2 & 3. That way you will have symmetrical thrust with one or both levers and you should be able to control any swing during takeoff or landing just by using the rudder.

    • av8r
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      can you describe in steps how this is done in FSUIPC? i have tried messing around in the axis setting tab and can not figure it out.
      i have a 2 throttle warthog and would like to assign 1&2 together and 3&4 together.

      thanks in advance

    #3
    Thanks Kevin. Will do that

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      #4
      I knew something was wrong when I gave it full throttle!
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        #5
        Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
        I knew something was wrong when I gave it full throttle!
        What ended up happening.
        Captain Kevin

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          #6
          It could be that FSUIPC only uses half of the hardware travel. Most throttles have a range from -16384 to 16384 and sometimes FSUIPC only uses 16384 to 0. if that‘s the case you can use the FSUIPC calibration to define the full range.

          Anyway, if you have issues it‘s best to explain them
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            #7
            Hi Kevin, It basically advanced left turbine2 only. causing a hefty push to the right! off the runway and into the trees

            I will rig the throttles in FSUIPC soon.
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            • Michael Codd
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              Ro, if you want to avoid a swing in future see my previous recommendation above!

            #8
            can you describe in steps how this is done in FSUIPC? i have tried messing around in the axis setting tab and can not figure it out.
            i have a 2 throttle warthog and would like to assign 1&2 together and 3&4 together.
            David Myers

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            • Michael Codd
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              I don't have your device, but I am sure someone who does will be able to help you. You will need to have the registered version of FSUIPC.

            #9
            No name, first, PMDG requires you to sign your posts with your first and last name, which you agreed to when you created an account here. The instructions for how to do so can be found here:

            https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...pdated-25feb19

            Assuming you have the registered version of FSUIPC, there should be a tab where you can assign your levers. When you get to that tab, move the lever that you want to assign, so FSUIPC picks it up, and then you can assign up to four things.

            Michael, I personally wouldn't do it that way. If for some reason, you were doing something where you needed to control the thrust on only one side of the plane, you wouldn't really be able to do that if you did it the way you described.
            Captain Kevin

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              #10
              Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
              Michael, I personally wouldn't do it that way. If for some reason, you were doing something where you needed to control the thrust on only one side of the plane, you wouldn't really be able to do that if you did it the way you described.
              Hi Kevin,
              Unless Ro and others want to experience double engine failures after takeoff and practice two-engined approaches and go-arounds, then they are of course at liberty to configure their four thrust levers as you suggested. However, configuring them to operate the engines in symmetrical pairs will, in my respectful submission, suit most end users for all normal four-engined operations.

              The decision is of course entirely up to each individual to make (and they can of course always swap methods), but I am going to continue controlling my four PMDG 744/-8 engines using four separate thrust levers - if that's OK with you? LOL
              Michael Codd

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                #11
                Originally posted by Michael Codd View Post
                The decision is of course entirely up to each individual to make (and they can of course always swap methods), but I am going to continue controlling my four PMDG 744/-8 engines using four separate thrust levers - if that's OK with you? LOL
                I'm with you there.
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                • Michael Codd
                  Michael Codd commented
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                  That's a relief - and a very realistic looking 744 throttle box you have too, Kevin! Incidentally, I forgot to mention that by configuring the engines in symmetrical pairs a user will also be able to practice flying with a single engine failure without having to reconfigure their two thrust levers - so my method is a win, win situation don't you think?

                #12
                Names of the pages can vary a little as I’m explaining it out of my memory, I’m not at my PC.

                To map the throttles go to axis assignment tab, where on the left side you see 3 or 4 drop down menus below a 1 of 3 choice. On this tab click „profile specific“, always say no to global assignments and create a Profil „747“. Always make sure that this profile is active BEFORE you make any changes. Move the left throttle. Assign it to „send direct to FSUIPC calibration“ and map it to „throttle 1“ click rescan and map the right throttle to throttle 3. click ok, fsuipc closes, check that throttle 1 and 3 move. Back in FSUIPC go to the calibration tab, check that profile specific is checked, and go to page 3 or 4 of 11. there must be 4 throttle options. Right bottom side: choose 1->1 and 2; 3->3 and 4. c‘est ça.
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                  #13
                  Thanks all.

                  I have done this but for some reason when there still is an issue. the right throttle on the TM warthog does control engines 3&4 but operating the left throttle still controls all 4 engines.

                  not sure what i am doing wrong.

                  any help would be appreciated

                  (incidentally, i have my signature set up in my profile but it is not showing up. i will check it again)
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                  • Ephedrin
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                    One second.. I‘ll start my sim pc

                  • Ephedrin
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                    btw your signature shows up. When you post something it doesn't but when you reload the site it's there.

                  #14
                  av8r

                  ok You need to assign the left throttle to throttle 1 and the right throttle to throttle 2, I was wrong above. look at the pictures.

                  make sure you don't have the axes assigned in the P3D options if you use FSUIPC.

                  I have a 4 throttle setup so it is a little different here.
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                    #15
                    Thanks,

                    i just checked and i still had throttle assigned in P3D axis assignments. unassigned in P3D and now works great.

                    thanks again
                    David Myers

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                    • Ephedrin
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                      welcome, have fun!

                    #16
                    Originally posted by av8r View Post
                    Thanks,

                    i just checked and i still had throttle assigned in P3D axis assignments. unassigned in P3D and now works great.

                    thanks again
                    sorry for opening this so late but..... how does it work later with all the other planes on P3D?

                    I'm following steps here, wiith a warthog to bind engines 1 and2 to throttle 1 and 3 and4 to throtlle 2
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                      #17
                      Originally posted by jotaedo8 View Post

                      sorry for opening this so late but..... how does it work later with all the other planes on P3D?

                      I'm following steps here, wiith a warthog to bind engines 1 and2 to throttle 1 and 3 and4 to throtlle 2
                      What‘s the problem?

                      you need to use FSUIPC or another external assignment tool to do that. In FSUIPC you set the left throttle to throttle axis 1 and the right one to throttle 2 and (from memory) on the calibration task you check the box that attaches engine 2 to engine 1 and engine 4 to engine 3.

                      It could be that you need to assign the right throttle to throttle 3 instead of 2, I can‘t remember.
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                        #18
                        Hello Ephedrin

                        my problem is that throttle lever number 2 is taking engines 2,3 and 4 so need to detach it from engine 2, but only for the 747 of course..... will follow the steps again from scratch and take screenshots of the process, will post later


                        Originally posted by Ephedrin View Post

                        What‘s the problem?

                        you need to use FSUIPC or another external assignment tool to do that. In FSUIPC you set the left throttle to throttle axis 1 and the right one to throttle 2 and (from memory) on the calibration task you check the box that attaches engine 2 to engine 1 and engine 4 to engine 3.

                        It could be that you need to assign the right throttle to throttle 3 instead of 2, I can‘t remember.
                        Juan Eduardo Furche R.
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                        W11// i9-11900K + RTX3090 TUF + 64 [email protected] + Z590 TUF + 1 Tb m.2 + tons of storage for tons of add-ons
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                          #19
                          Originally posted by jotaedo8 View Post
                          Hello Ephedrin

                          my problem is that throttle lever number 2 is taking engines 2,3 and 4 so need to detach it from engine 2, but only for the 747 of course..... will follow the steps again from scratch and take screenshots of the process, will post later
                          I recently did a full reinstall of everything and setting up FSUIPC for the 4 engine aircraft was a pain. I eventually got it ot work as follows:

                          In FSUIPC assign throttle 1 to ‘Axis Throttle 1 Set’ and throttle 2 to ‘Axis Throttle 2 Set’. On Joystick Calibration page 3 set min and max for throttles 1 and 2 and select Filter for Throttles 1 and 2. Select ‘No reverse Zone’ and Select both ‘Map 1 to 1,2 and 2 to 3,4’ and ‘Map 1 to 1,2 and 2 to 3. Select ‘Exclude THROTTLEn_SET’.
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