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748i Passenger weight

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    748i Passenger weight

    Hello pilot,

    I would like to know the default passenger weight on the 747-8.

    Indeed, when I prepared an EDDF-KLAX flight in 747-8I (with DLH) Simbrief showed me 5 tons more in ZFW than what the plane gave me.

    At first I thought I had miscalculated the cargo and the number of passengers, but my calculations were correct but the ZFW by consistent, When I went back on simbrief to look at the plane I created, I noticed that I put a weight of 104kg (230lbs) per passenger, which I think is a lot and explains the difference of ZFW.

    I thought the default passenger weight is 85kg (187lbs) but I'm not sure, thank you for confirming it. (and sorry for my bad English, I use google translation )

    You can get around this by ignoring no. of passegers and cargo and simply enter the ZFW directly. Weight is weight, it doesn't matter how it's distributed in terms cargo vs. passengers.
    André Hansson


      89kg is the weight per passenger we use.
      Chris Makris (Olympic260)
      PMDG Technical Support


      • Ausflight
        Ausflight commented
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        Chunky passengers lol.

      AndreH , That's right, I'm not thinking about it. But I got used to the number of passengers and cargo.

      cmakris, It is noted, thank you for your answer!


      • DDowns
        DDowns commented
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        Passenger weights often vary by airline, season and domestic verses international flights. If I want about an 80% payload I'll used a pax count of something like 400 and 50,000 lbs cargo if I'm taking that path, but I usually just go with the ZFW.

      Standard (default) passenger weights do vary as Dan has already commented, They have also tended to increase over time as the average passenger size has increased. On a large aircraft such as the 744/-8, the same standard weight will normally be used for all adult passengers and lower weights will be used for children and infants. However, there will be some occasions when the standard (default) adult weights will result in the inability to load the operational fuel required for the flight and the Captain might then require a Loadsheet with a male/female adult passenger weight split.
      Michael Codd