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    Feature suggestion (programmed sim pause) to PMDG Team

    To : PMDG Team

    Hi PMDG Team,

    I would like to make a suggestion inspired from a utility (I Will Be Back) by Jose Oliveira available in the AVSIM Library.

    The goal is to program the sim to be paused after a certain distance or after a duration.

    The interest is to let the aircraft fly on autopilot, leave the PC to do real life activities, and the sim pauses automatically when a point of interest (typically geographic but possibly other) is reached.

    In the FMC FS Actions, add a screen called 'Prog. Pause'.

    In that screen the user enters a duration or a distance after which the sim automatically pauses and/or emits a sound.

    That's it. Using the capabilities of FSUIPC it's not complex to develop I believe. But I am no developer so I might be wrong.

    Should you develop the feature, please do it first for the 777

    To : Users

    If you are interested by such a feature, please post.
    Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

    #2
    For the time being, you have already the option to have the SIM paused at TOD. It would be an extension of that option, then.
    Romain Roux

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      #3
      Yup, this feature is already implemented
      Matthew Chalupniczak

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        #4
        Yes Romain, but for the TOD only. Not entirely as I described it.

        To give you a practical application : I'm doing a flight from LFPG to KIAD. One portion of the route is close to Greenland. So I make the programmation, take off, then leave the PC to do some activities. And when the aircrafts nears Greenland (measured by flight time or distance since the time when I made the programmation) it pauses the sim. When I come back to the PC, I can admire the Greenland landscape Even if I am late.
        Last edited by Simicro; 21Nov2020, 21:38.
        Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dzosef View Post
          Yup, this feature is already implemented
          Only for Top Of Descent, mate.
          Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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            #6
            Originally posted by Simicro View Post
            Yes Romain, but for the TOD only. Not entirely as I described it.

            To give you a practical application : I'm doing a flight from LFPG to KIAD. One portion of the route is close to Greenland. So I make the programmation, take off, then leave the PC to do some activities. And when the aircrafts nears Greenland (measured by flight time or distance since the time when I made the programmation) it pauses the sim. When I come back to the PC, I can admire the Greenland landscape Even if I am late.
            Could actually pause at a specific waypoint. If you want PMDG to consider this you probably want to submit a support ticket so you can be sure they see the request
            Michael Sill

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              #7
              Good ideas Michael! Thanks for your contribution.

              So to summarize:

              <PAUSE> :
              1. At TOD (existing)
              2. After a duration since the programmation time (new)
              3. After a distance travelled since the programmation time (new)
              4. At a specific waypoint (new)

              I did not think of the support ticket.

              So I'll wait a bit, the time to get the community feedback and ideas, and then I'll submit a support ticket.
              Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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                #8
                So pretty much


                In the Fmc -> simulation-> pause menu *would have to be added* -> pause @ ****** wpt or pause @ [time]
                I mean I think the pause at TOD works very well as I dont see a need to pause anywhere else in the middle of the flight than TOD
                Alex Kulak
                PMDG Studier and flyer

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                  #9
                  That's a lot of coding for 3 aircraft
                  Charles Harris KRTS The Valley of Speed
                  ASUS ROG Strix B450-F, Ryzen 3700X, 1TB 970 Neo M2,1TB SSD, RX 5700XT 8GB, 32GB DDR4 3200

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                  • Simicro
                    Simicro commented
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                    Really, you think so?

                  • Snowfalcon
                    Snowfalcon commented
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                    YES. Now interaction with the flightplan is involved, That means it effects ACARS and CPCLD integration. What about Auto Step climb since that is now potentially in the mix. What happens if Auto Time Compression is used. And I'm not allowed to comment on how this could affect GFO.

                    Stuff like this is not a stand alone item. All of this is connected so it would have an affect.

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
                  In the Fmc -> simulation-> pause menu *would have to be added* -> pause @ ****** wpt or pause @ [time]
                  Yes

                  Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
                  I mean I think the pause at TOD works very well
                  Agree.

                  Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
                  I dont see a need to pause anywhere else in the middle of the flight than TOD
                  Because probably you don't do long flights and/or never leave your PC and/or are not interested to watch landscape points of interest from your 777
                  Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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                    #11
                    Originally posted by Simicro View Post
                    Because probably you don't do long flights and/or never leave your PC and/or are not interested to watch landscape points of interest from your 777
                    I do mostly long routes when im at work.. yeah no if i was into landscape i would just fly MSFS. More of an airliner guy

                    Alex Kulak
                    PMDG Studier and flyer

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                      #12
                      Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
                      airliner guy
                      You know, real life airliners pilots also like to watch at beautiful skies, clouds, landscapes, sunsets, dawns, etc. Being an airliner pilot does not mean watching at the instruments all the time.
                      Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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                        #13
                        I always encourage others to submit support tickets for feature requests, but since you asked for feedback: Not interested at all.
                        Dan Downs KCRP
                        i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                        • Simicro
                          Simicro commented
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                          Thanks for your feedback Dan.

                        #14
                        Could you "trick" the TOD pause by putting a fix say 20 nm after your intended pause fix and insert a lower altitude target for it, creating a TOD near your intended fix?
                        Zach Alcantar
                        MSI GE75 Raider 9SF laptop -Windows 10 version 1909 -i9-9880H -RTX 2070 8GB -32 GB DDR4 -V5 HF2

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                        • DDowns
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                          Once your FMS enters the descent mode it stays there, you cannot return to cruise mode.

                        • Pilatuz
                          Pilatuz commented
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                          Well what if you take it out of VNAV and just plain ALT hold. The TOD should stay there and the FMS wouldn't initiate any descent right?

                        #15
                        I find it sad to leave his computer while letting the plane fly ... I don't leave the screen much, but I am a very big fan of the PMDG time accelerator.... and on that I would say that I would miss it for the world a sunrise or sunset
                        Cedrice Rive

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                          #16
                          So in today's age we have two sims now one ment for training and studying the other ment for visualization. Now maybe this could be a added feature for the NG3 as it will play a bigger part in the scenery aspect like state above.

                          Actually since on the subject airline pilots don't have the luxury of pausing and looking at scenery. Better yet on their days off they just non rev that place if they have time and if covid wasn't a thing lol
                          Last edited by Swaluver88; 22Nov2020, 19:21.
                          Alex Kulak
                          PMDG Studier and flyer

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                            #17
                            I like the idea, but don't see it as a priority. But I also like the 'pause before descent'-feature and never use it! The reason is that I look at the FMC how long I have until I have to plan the approach, or execute a step climb, or reach border point x, or whatever, and then look at my watch and calculate at what hour real time I'll have to get back to the machine.
                            Cheers
                            Lars Wüst

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                              #18
                              Originally posted by Captain Lars View Post
                              I like the idea, but don't see it as a priority.
                              Sure it is more a Nice have than a Must have.

                              Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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                                #19
                                I think the idea has merit, but whether it is feasible to implement is another issue. I don't understand the negative sentiment behind the idea - if you didn't want to use the feature, keep it disabled like plenty of other settings.
                                David Porrett
                                Sea Pilot
                                CPL, ME, CFI, IFR
                                Mooney M20M (G500/GTN)

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                                  #20
                                  I could see some use in this feature, less for pausing at a POI than for example pausing at a STAR entrance or something. We all love those airports with 300NM STARs in the States where you'll long be on the STAR before the T/D, don't we? This might save you the hassle of having to reprogram everything if you are halfway through the STAR by the time your pause at T/D feature activates.

                                  To date I have survived well without it though. If there is some spare capacity on a developer who really has nothing else to do I'd say it would be a nice addition.

                                  As Dan did above I'd suggest you to raise a ticket as well. Maybe just point them here in the ticket since you asked for opinions as well and there are quite some of them here now.

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                                  • Simicro
                                    Simicro commented
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                                    Thanks for your feedback. I'll submit a support ticket end of this week, pointing to this thread.

                                  #21
                                  Would love to see this feature, even simply "Pause XXX miles from TOD." The current implementation (20nm before TOD or something like that?) doesn't give me enough time to run my approach briefing procedures and descent checklist using FS2Crew.
                                  Andrew De Forest
                                  Ryzen 3950X | RTX 2080Ti | 32GB DDR4 (3200MHz) | Prepar3Dv5

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                                  • Simicro
                                    Simicro commented
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                                    I'm in the same situation using FS2Crew too

                                  • olafie
                                    olafie commented
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                                    FS2Crew has noted in their manuals that those descent checks and procedures have to start at 150NM before TOD, should be plenty of time...

                                  #22
                                  Originally posted by adf View Post
                                  Would love to see this feature, even simply "Pause XXX miles from TOD." The current implementation (20nm before TOD or something like that?) doesn't give me enough time to run my approach briefing procedures and descent checklist using FS2Crew.
                                  In fact, what would be good would be to be able to define your own pause distance which is 20nm from the TOD by default in the PMDG option.
                                  (1 hour before the descent for a long flight and 30 minutes for a domestic flight is what this fact is "generally" for the preparation)
                                  Cedrice Rive

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