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    Sad that there are no mentions in the posts to the most important of RSRs news - GFO.
    I believe that GFO will make a major contribution to our simmimg and could see a major reduction in VA usage. Far more impact than just a few additional aircraft models.
    Cheers, Richard McDonald Woods
    i7-7700K @ 4.20 GHz, Win10, P3Dv5

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    • micstatic
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      he did comment: We also set a “go live” date on the calendar for PMDG Global Flight Operations this past week… I need to get together with Chris to map out a full spectrum update for you on THAT topic… it will be it’s own announcement.

    • rsrandazzo
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      he read what i wrote! <wipes away a tear of joy> -RSR

    Originally posted by RichardMcDonaldWoods View Post
    I believe that GFO will make a major contribution to our simmimg and could see a major reduction in VA usage.
    For me, that would be the sad part. VAs are communities as much as anything else. I'd rather see VAs embrace GFO (if that's possible?) and use it to enhance their offering, even to promote themselves further in terms of realism by using GFO.

    Of course, my opinion is based on hearsay, we don't know fully what it's going to bring to the table other than some basics provided some time ago...

    Trevor Hannant

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    • rsrandazzo
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      We have a whole suite of tools coming to help VAs leverage our technology to their own benefit. It will allow VAs to utilize what we have built, while maintaining their own autonomy to run their operation and organization as they wish. The VA tools will come a bit later as we want to normalize the core non-VA functionality first.. but we'll tell you more very soon. - RSR

    • TrevorHannant
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      Thanks Robert, good to hear!

    Originally posted by Ilari Kousa View Post

    Why are you guys so crazy about the different variants, given they're almost identical operationally?
    That's a rather narrow view to take given that the -200LR is essentially a different aircraft to the -200ER. The engines are different, the wings are updated, the whole aircraft also uses a greater percentage of newer alloys and composites compared to the older 200ER. Also, there are significant performance differences to consider. While it may not seem much at first, when you scrutinize a bit more then you'll realize all the differences for yourself.
    Regards,

    Swapnil Sirdeshpande
    B.E (Aeronautics)

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      i am happy you provided us time lines, even if the time lines are far out. at least we know were we stand and what to expect.
      also i always add buffer time on top the declared time lines for contingency
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        Originally posted by RichardMcDonaldWoods View Post
        Sad that there are no mentions in the posts to the most important of RSRs news - GFO.
        I believe that GFO will make a major contribution to our simmimg and could see a major reduction in VA usage. Far more impact than just a few additional aircraft models.
        Actually, I believe it'll do the exact opposite, because if they're putting in a feature where people (and VAs) can create their own fleets, then that could prove to be a boon to existing VAs, and even lead to a new wave of VAs being formed, though the only problem I can see with that is it could possibly lead to dupes of RL airlines being created, and that could clog the system. Though I am excited to see that, and I'm also hoping they'll either have an ACARS dispatcher client and/or AI-driven ACARS like in FSL's Airbuses, as well as the ability to simulate the Oceanic SELCAL check that's required when entering Oceanic areas such as the NATOTS.
        Craig Norman

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          I really hope that PMDG recognizes the market for a 767. There are still numerous airlines worldwide that use the 767. The history of the 767 alone would justify PMDG developing the 767. But honestly, I think it's more likely to be a 787. I don't know if I'm going to buy this state-of-the-art plane. The 787 from QualityWings has not interested me so far.

          But for now I’m happy to get the 772ER soon!!
          Regards from Cologne,
          Tobi

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            Originally posted by mighty747 View Post
            I really hope that PMDG recognizes the market for a 767. There are still numerous airlines worldwide that use the 767. The history of the 767 alone would justify PMDG developing the 767. But honestly, I think it's more likely to be a 787. I don't know if I'm going to buy this state-of-the-art plane. The 787 from QualityWings has not interested me so far.

            But for now I’m happy to get the 772ER soon!!
            if you are really in the bad need of a 767, CS just released one last month, otherwise I don't see PMDG jumping to do a 767 or even a 757 any time soon.
            Regards,

            Swapnil Sirdeshpande
            B.E (Aeronautics)

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            • mighty747
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              You’re right, but CaptainSim is trash😄 No money for this company!

            Will the update also include the 777-200ER?
            Ben
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              Originally posted by BWBriscoe View Post
              Will the update also include the 777-200ER?
              Ben
              No. That’s a paid expansion.
              Alex Pugh

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                Originally posted by snsb789 View Post

                if you are really in the bad need of a 767, CS just released one last month, otherwise I don't see PMDG jumping to do a 767 or even a 757 any time soon.
                CS also did a 777 and PMDG did their own anyways. So this is no reason for PMDG to do not a 767.
                Bodo Müller
                Globe Cargo Virtual Airlines.
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                • snsb789
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                  Times were different then, what made sense then will not make sense now.

                • rsrandazzo
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                  I agree with Bodo... We hear lots of of reasons why we won't do various things. None of them make any sense when you really get down to brass tacks. - RSR

                • bert.laverman
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                  Oh, you sneaky guy... Keep pouring oil on the fire, eh?

                Originally posted by AirBadger View Post

                No. That’s a paid expansion.
                hope to see some pics soon
                Regards from Cologne,
                Tobi

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                  Originally posted by mighty747 View Post
                  I really hope that PMDG recognizes the market for a 767. There are still numerous airlines worldwide that use the 767. The history of the 767 alone would justify PMDG developing the 767. But honestly, I think it's more likely to be a 787. I don't know if I'm going to buy this state-of-the-art plane. The 787 from QualityWings has not interested me so far.

                  But for now I’m happy to get the 772ER soon!!
                  The B787 would be the most logical choice since the avionics for the MAX series and 787 are indentical,BUT you never know with PMDG so I guess we would have to wait and see.
                  We won't be disappointed that's for sure!
                  Last edited by Stefan_888; 01Oct2020, 17:49.
                  STEFAN ĐORĐEVIĆ

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                    I am truly looking forward to fly the B777-200ER. I work at EHAM daily and when I see the 200ER now, I can't wait to own it and fly it across the Flightsim globe! Great work PMDG, you are doing an incredible job!
                    Johnno Roskam
                    Proud PMDG pilot
                    KLM Ramp agent

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                      I guess I'll add my speculation. If PMDG is planning to add the 777X to their product line in the future then a 787 wouldn't be too far out of reach. The 777X and 787 use the same cockpit and avionics with some small differences. Now that is if they actually plan on adding the 777X to their 777 line.
                      Devin Davis

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                        Originally posted by Greyhound79 View Post
                        I guess I'll add my speculation. If PMDG is planning to add the 777X to their product line in the future then a 787 wouldn't be too far out of reach. The 777X and 787 use the same cockpit and avionics with some small differences. Now that is if they actually plan on adding the 777X to their 777 line.
                        I'd have to say there's very little chance of a 777X being an expansion, though - that'd be more than enough of a change to be a standalone package.
                        - Karl Brooker

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                          Originally posted by squerble View Post

                          I'd have to say there's very little chance of a 777X being an expansion, though - that'd be more than enough of a change to be a standalone package.
                          The 747-8 was released as an expansion to the 744v3 pack, despite having significant differences, mostly in the size, engines, performance and avionics. So I wouldn't discount the possibility that a 777X expansion to the PMDG 777 could happen.
                          Craig Norman

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                            Originally posted by CANorm91 View Post
                            The 747-8 was released as an expansion to the 744v3 pack, despite having significant differences, mostly in the size, engines, performance and avionics. So I wouldn't discount the possibility that a 777X expansion to the PMDG 777 could happen.
                            RSR also said he wished they'd released it as standalone because of the amount of those changes. Therefore it is almost certain a hypothetical 777X would be its own product line.
                            - Karl Brooker

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                              Originally posted by CANorm91 View Post
                              The 747-8 was released as an expansion to the 744v3 pack, despite having significant differences, mostly in the size, engines, performance and avionics. So I wouldn't discount the possibility that a 777X expansion to the PMDG 777 could happen.
                              Yes, but look at how long it took for them to do that AND take into consideration the fact that the 747-400 needed a significant update in order to accommodate the 747-8 expansion. The only reason they had continued on with it was the fact that they had already announced that the 747-8 would be an expansion, and they weren't going to go back on that. Had they not announced that, it is likely that the 747-8 would have been a standalone add-on rather than an expansion. So given the differences between the 777X and the 737MAX, it could really go either way with this.
                              Captain Kevin

                              Kevin Yang

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                                You realize you are talking for a plane that has not even entered commercial usage...
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                                PMDG Technical Support
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                                • Greyhound79
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                                  Obviously, but does that mean it can't be talked about? Were people talking about the 747-8 on here before it was in commercial use?

                                i hope its a 747 classic

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                                  Never mind modern aircraft, its the old airframes I want more of! A 727 would be very nice, especially in MSFS!

                                  I am looking forward the the 777 update in P3D for the time being though!
                                  Ciarán Andrews, Ireland

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                                  • rsrandazzo
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                                    mmmm.... three holers. I LOVE three holers. -RSR

                                  • teohalfen
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                                    I think an old jet airliner like the 727 would be great in PMDG fleet... There is no old jet airliner in PMDG fleet yet... Specially a short to medium range jet airliner, for those who lack the time for long trips. And you can land a 727 in most airports with a 5000 ft runway. A 727 has lots of history and can teach you a lot about aviation.

                                    Teo Halfen
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                                  Here's a wild card.. Maybe the jungle jets? Whether Embraer would be willing to provide the necessary data regarding their aircraft is another matter though. As far as I know Boeing is the only commercial aircraft manufacturer that allows for licensing in flight sims.
                                  -Spencer Hoefer

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                                    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                                    Here's a wild card.. Maybe the jungle jets? Whether Embraer would be willing to provide the necessary data regarding their aircraft is another matter though. As far as I know Boeing is the only commercial aircraft manufacturer that allows for licensing in flight sims.
                                    Aerosoft and FSL (and I think possibly a couple of others) are licensed Airbus products. Doesn't mean they provide data though, just means they're happy for the "Airbus" name to be used.
                                    - Karl Brooker

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                                      Originally posted by squerble View Post

                                      Aerosoft and FSL (and I think possibly a couple of others) are licensed Airbus products. Doesn't mean they provide data though, just means they're happy for the "Airbus" name to be used.
                                      FSL are the only ones with a study-level Airbus, and they currently have a long haul Airbus in development, so their range is growing. However, the market for study-level Airbuses isn't as well developed as Boeing, and part of that is down to access to data and how deep they can go, not to mention that the A350 and A380 have a paperless system, which means that access to certain data can be a nightmare, but seeing as the Thrustmaster TCA is the first product to actually have an officially-licensed label from Airbus, it's a possible sign that they may let developers develop more in-depth simulations.
                                      Craig Norman

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                                        Is the 777-200ER expansion coming at the same time as the P3D5 upgrade?
                                        Ben Briscoe
                                        Ben Briscoe

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                                          X an’t wait to fly the Euroatlantic or Privilege Style 772ER! We need pics, more pics!🤣
                                          Regards from Cologne,
                                          Tobi

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                                            Anyone planning to do a day-in-the-life for the BBJ, similar to freighter? 😁
                                            Matthew Simmons

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                                              A 767 would be absolutely incredible. The LDS was the first “study” level aircraft I ever used, and that’s how I learned to use the FMC. This lead to every PMDG Boeings for both FS 9 and then on to P3D.
                                              That being said, whatever the mystery plane is, I’ll more than likely get it.
                                              Richard Simoneau

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                                                Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
                                                [SIZE=14px]Captains,

                                                Hello and happy weekend to you. Generally speaking I try to give you a weekly update at some point during the weekend to keep you generally involved in what is going on around the PMDG universe. There have been a number of external factors impacting my ability to keep up with outbound news and information since mid-summer so you (hopefully?) noticed I wasn't around.

                                                I do have plenty to fill you in with- but rather than dump all of it on you at one time, I have a few pieces to share today with more to follow!






                                                PMDG 777 Update:

                                                There is enough in this update that it warrants it’s own update- so watch for that coming to you a bit later. (Someone will invariably ask: No, this update does not add an EFB to the 777, nor will it turn it into an MD-11, for that matter. )




                                                I’m so anxiously awaiting this second update that I’ve set aside time while having my first cup of coffee every morning since this post to check the forums for the update on the T7 and GFO...
                                                Ross McDonagh
                                                KBOS
                                                PC: Jetline Systems Customized Gravity GT2
                                                i7 10700K @5.1ghz//RTX 2080S 8GB/32GB DDR4 @3200mhz//1TB WD M.2 NVMe//750W Power supply

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                                                  Originally posted by FBWFTW View Post

                                                  I’m so anxiously awaiting this second update that I’ve set aside time while having my first cup of coffee every morning since this post to check the forums for the update on the T7 and GFO...
                                                  Me too! I can't wait for that update!
                                                  Craig Norman

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                                                  • FBWFTW
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                                                    I was hoping we’d get it this weekend. I’m very interested in GFO-I find myself gravitating to a certain Airbus addon which allows me full immersion in the ATSU/ATS/AOC systems-getting digital ATIS/WX reports/Loadsheets etc. without ever having to leave P3D. With the NGXu I have to tab over to activesky (thereby “breaking the immersion” if you will) to get the weather for my departure and arrival calculations.

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                                                    Well it's still Sunday it can still happen

                                                  • Sekkha
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                                                    Why dont you set radios to 122.00 /122.025 and listen to AS-ATIS for departure/arrival airports, so you dont have to leave P3D at all.
                                                    122.075 gives you just current winds, too. Very handy for takeoff and finals.
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