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    MSFS 2020 on Steam

    Preorder MSFS on Steam.
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...ght_Simulator/
    Danny Z.Cebis

    #2
    Does anyone have any idea which store would be best to use? Keep in mind that they both cost the same and i don't have nor do i plan to get an XBox. Seems like MS Store likes to lock their game files, which would restrict access to ini edits and the like. But there are ways around that, and it looks like only the game launcher might be locked, with the main game files being unrestricted. As for getting it on Steam, i don't know if life will be easier using a Microsoft product bought from a Microsoft store. As in, i'm not sure if the Steam version won't give me headaches down the line.

    Anyone know anything more concrete on this?
    Cristi Neagu

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      #3
      I can only say that I wasn't all that impressed with my experience running FSX from Steam. If I buy this sim it will be through the Microsoft store.

      As for manually editing files, I think we're a little ahead of ourselves. It's a practice a lot of people picked up because there were so many gaps in how things ran with the older sims based on old MS code. It may well not be needed at all with the new platform, or it may not even be possible (or recommended).
      Dan Morand
      i7-7700k OC 4.8, 16GB RAM, EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2

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        #4
        Originally posted by Dan Morand View Post
        As for manually editing files, I think we're a little ahead of ourselves. It's a practice a lot of people picked up because there were so many gaps in how things ran with the older sims based on old MS code. It may well not be needed at all with the new platform, or it may not even be possible (or recommended).
        Sure, but it might be needed. If you have unlocked files and there's never a need to mess with them, no problems. But if they're locked and you do need to mess with them... big problem.
        Cristi Neagu

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          #5
          Be interesting to know how updates and addons will work on Steam. Will they be available the same time as on MS store? or will there be a delay?
          Also, will third party stuff only be available via Steam or will it be possible to install outside of the platform?
          Dave Smith

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            #6
            Don't think it will really matter where you buy it from as my guess is that you will still need to log into a Microsoft account to activate and use the simulation. So buying from steam doesn't necessarily bypass any restrictions Microsoft might have in place
            Michael Sill

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              #7
              Originally posted by DrJ1 View Post
              Don't think it will really matter where you buy it from as my guess is that you will still need to log into a Microsoft account to activate and use the simulation. So buying from steam doesn't necessarily bypass any restrictions Microsoft might have in place
              MS Store restrictions are Windows level restrictions. They are imposed by the MS Store installer on the installation directory, by removing access rights to anything other than Trusted Installer, even Administrator accounts. Steam doesn't do that, and it is typical for MS Store.
              But it seems that only the launcher will be locked in such a manner. The game files, as far as people can speculate at this time, will most likely not be locked, as they are downloaded by the launcher, not by MS Store.
              Cristi Neagu

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dan Morand View Post
                I can only say that I wasn't all that impressed with my experience running FSX from Steam. If I buy this sim it will be through the Microsoft store.

                As for manually editing files, I think we're a little ahead of ourselves. It's a practice a lot of people picked up because there were so many gaps in how things ran with the older sims based on old MS code. It may well not be needed at all with the new platform, or it may not even be possible (or recommended).
                I never had any problems running either FSX or XP10 on Steam. FSX-SE didn't really need tweaking but access to the cfg files was just as easy as FSX and the folder structure just as accessible. The easy of verifying, updating or repairing the installation using Steam was a bonus.

                How it will work with MSFS remains to be seen but i doubt it will be an issue. Using third party addons, such as PMDG aircraft, was never a problem with FSX-SE so i wouldn't expect it to be with MSFS.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kevin Hall View Post

                  I never had any problems running either FSX or XP10 on Steam. FSX-SE didn't really need tweaking but access to the cfg files was just as easy as FSX and the folder structure just as accessible. The easy of verifying, updating or repairing the installation using Steam was a bonus.

                  How it will work with MSFS remains to be seen but i doubt it will be an issue. Using third party addons, such as PMDG aircraft, was never a problem with FSX-SE so i wouldn't expect it to be with MSFS.
                  Depends oh how tight the security is with ASOBO and Microsoft tbh
                  Alex Kulak
                  PMDG Studier and flyer

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                  • Kevin Hall
                    Kevin Hall commented
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                    As I said, it remains to be seen. But as they are releasing on Steam then there will need to be enough flexibility to make it work.

                  #10
                  If Steam handles MSFS 2020 addons in the same way as it has done for some of the addons for FSX-SE then it might be sensible to carefully check out how this new Microsoft flight simulator and any addons for it will be implemented on Valve's platform before deciding to purchase it there. For example, HiFi's Active Sky for FSX-SE is not compatible for use with FSX; whereas the FSX version purchased from HiFi and elsewhere will also work with Steam's FSX-SE.

                  Apparently if a gamer already has an XBox Game Pass for their PC they may be able to purchase MSFS 2020 for a nominal introductory price from the Microsoft store. Another possible option, other than a direct download, is to purchase a DVD version. Aerosoft has them listed on their website for purchase, although it seems they will only be available from them if you are a customer living in Europe. Another obvious downside is your PC will need a DVD drive when you want to run the simulator, as well as install all of the 90Gb of data in the Premium Deluxe edItion!

                  Michael Codd

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                    #11
                    That's true, but however you buy MSFS you'll need a new version of Active Sky to work with it, so you'd just buy the appropriate version to match your sim. It was only a problem with FSX because people needed a new copy of Active Sky to switch to FSX-SE.

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                    • Michael Codd
                      Michael Codd commented
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                      Yes, that may be true for MSFS 2020 if AS is needed at all, but my point is if someone bought the AS product for the much later FSX-SE simulator from Steam it would not work with with FSX. Buy it from HiFi the other way around for FSX and it would work with FSX-SE. How ridiculous is that??!!

                    • Kevin Hall
                      Kevin Hall commented
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                      Yes that was ridiculous. I wonder whether that was Steam's doing or HiFi encouraging customers to buy direct. Caveat emptor.

                    #12
                    FSX and FSX-SE had compatibility issues with add-ons because they were not the same software. Dovetail released minor updates to FSX after it acquired the rights to distribute the game on Steam, which rendered some add-ons incompatible and required developers to update their software to run on FSX-SE. I don't believe a similar problem will exist with MSFS 2020 because there is only one developer distributing its game on different platforms, much like PMDG and other developers do with products delivered either via their own store or via third-party vendors, in either digital or physical media. The only thing I wonder about is whether updates will be released simultaneously through MS Store and Steam.
                    Matheus Mafra

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                      #13
                      Originally posted by mbmafra View Post
                      FSX and FSX-SE had compatibility issues with add-ons because they were not the same software. Dovetail released minor updates to FSX after it acquired the rights to distribute the game on Steam, which rendered some add-ons incompatible and required developers to update their software to run on FSX-SE. I don't believe a similar problem will exist with MSFS 2020 because there is only one developer distributing its game on different platforms, much like PMDG and other developers do with products delivered either via their own store or via third-party vendors, in either digital or physical media. The only thing I wonder about is whether updates will be released simultaneously through MS Store and Steam.
                      The main difference was that FSX-SE was recompiled. That meant internal address offsets could change. There were code changes but Dovetail were required by MS to maintain compatibility with FSX Gold. Only devs doing innovative things with FSX had to resolve compatibility issues. That shouldn't happen with MSFS as the same dev team are controlling the platform inside and outside of Steam and the third party developers have been onboard for a long time.
                      Last edited by Kevin Hall; 02Aug2020, 12:11.

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                        #14
                        Yes, remember that MSFS2020 is the same software whether you buy it from MS Store or Steam. FSX and FSX:SE were two different softwares. Don't compare these two.
                        Joona Väisänen

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                          #15
                          I wonder if pmdg products will be installed through marketplace within the Sim in steam or outside of steam,my only concern when buying the sim on steam would be not being able to install a stand alone addon such as pmdg or a2a planes
                          Wayne Such

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                            #16
                            Originally posted by Jetman View Post
                            I wonder if pmdg products will be installed through marketplace within the Sim in steam or outside of steam,my only concern when buying the sim on steam would be not being able to install a stand alone addon such as pmdg or a2a planes
                            They were able to be added just fine for FSX Steam, so I'm not sure why it would be any different here.
                            Captain Kevin

                            Kevin Yang

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                              #17
                              Originally posted by Jetman View Post
                              I wonder if pmdg products will be installed through marketplace within the Sim in steam or outside of steam,my only concern when buying the sim on steam would be not being able to install a stand alone addon such as pmdg or a2a planes
                              The marketplace seems to be accessible ingame, so it probably won't behave differently between Steam and MS Store. Of course, i am speculating, since no one has tried the Steam version.
                              Cristi Neagu

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                                #18
                                I'm still wondering what will the market place consist of. It will be like orbx, pmdg, etc. Or it will be strictly Microsoft products and partnerships. Honestly I would buy all addons from producers on their own websites and get the installer from them because it will be much more reliant and safer. However this will be my first time on the Xbox market place for pc
                                Alex Kulak
                                PMDG Studier and flyer

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                                  #19
                                  I think it will be the same as it was with fsx.
                                  Danny Z.Cebis

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