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    #31
    Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post

    Time for them to do their jobs as testers for the rest of us. We are all counting on your testers.
    If you find a bug or something missing, first thing to do on August 18th is PM me about how I didn't do my job. I'll be standing by...
    Alan Ampolsk
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    "Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!" -- Saint-Exupery

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      #32
      Originally posted by Alan_A View Post

      If you find a bug or something missing, first thing to do on August 18th is PM me about how I didn't do my job. I'll be standing by...
      So now you're stating its gonna be flawless okay.
      Alex Kulak
      PMDG Studier and flyer

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        #33
        as a beta tester, i can tell you its the Butterfly effect. Thats whats causing the stutters.
        Michael Backes
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          #34
          Originally posted by Alan_A View Post

          If you find a bug or something missing, first thing to do on August 18th is PM me about how I didn't do my job. I'll be standing by...
          no kidding. Just because an alpha tester finds and reports a bug, it doesn't mean the maker will change anything.
          Dave Gray

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            #35
            Originally posted by elmucki View Post
            as a beta tester, i can tell you its the Butterfly effect. Thats whats causing the stutters.
            What do you mean by that?

            Nikita Travkin

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              #36
              Originally posted by threegreen View Post

              Oh there's more than enough nitpicking to the point it gets annoying, rest assured.
              nitpicking annoying yes. But equally annoying is the group who believes the sim is perfect and dare anybody say otherwise.
              Dave Gray

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                #37
                Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post

                So now you're stating its gonna be flawless okay.
                Um... show me where I said that.

                There be testers and there be developers, and they be different things.

                micstatic gets it (in post #34).
                Alan Ampolsk
                __________________________________________

                "Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!" -- Saint-Exupery

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                  #38
                  Mike. You are killing my excitement. MS2020 has to have something P3D doesn’t have. Maybe an armadillo? A koala bear. Give me something!
                  Paul Gugliotta

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                    Mike. You are killing my excitement. MS2020 has to have something P3D doesn’t have. Maybe an armadillo? A koala bear. Give me something!
                    What about an ant?
                    Alex Kulak
                    PMDG Studier and flyer

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                      #40
                      20200729_211147.jpg

                      the best
                      Alex Kulak
                      PMDG Studier and flyer

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                        #41
                        Well we do have bug splatter in P3D
                        Paul Gugliotta

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by nikita1234 View Post

                          I have a bad feeling this is what we will see in the final build. Whats the point of having maxed graphics if you cant run it. I am pretty sure the PC they used to show off MFS 2020 is a monster build and even that stutters

                          Nikita Travkin
                          Keep in mind that most people don't even fully max out games and there aren't many with such a big world keep in mind also
                          Alex Farmer A.K.A Goldstar Textures

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                            #43
                            Are we really discussing whether a brand new sim that isn't out yet has bugs? Guess what. It has bugs.
                            Paul Biderman

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by nikita1234 View Post

                              What do you mean by that?

                              Nikita Travkin
                              you know about the butterfly effect? a butterfly flaps its wings and boom, it affects something else. No but serious, the stutters are likely from recording software or so.... Wait for the sim to be out, play it and be happy
                              Michael Backes
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                                #45
                                Well, the graphics on a sim aren't that much of importance to me at least, as I get to see the real deal at work. I don't even need to look outside for 99% of the flight to do my job.
                                Now back in my private pilot days, I planned my cross country using towers that were in the middle of the Everglades, and sure enough, they were in FS9. I practiced my real world cross country using pilotage and dead reckoning in FS9 as it matched the sectional charts I were using.
                                William Holland

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                                  #46
                                  Originally posted by micstatic View Post

                                  nitpicking annoying yes. But equally annoying is the group who believes the sim is perfect and dare anybody say otherwise.
                                  True. As I said in another forum, the sim won't be perfect and it won't be disappointing.
                                  Niklas Graefe

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                                  • micstatic
                                    micstatic commented
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                                    I half agree with you

                                  #47
                                  I remember very similar posts when P3D v5 came out, and many people swearing they’d never leave v4.5. A little after, the turbulent waters calmed down.

                                  By Aug 25, all this will be very quiet.

                                  Until MSFS2020 v2 is announced or released, of course.
                                  Roberto Stopnicki
                                  Toronto, Canada

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                                  • Swaluver88
                                    Swaluver88 commented
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                                    The problem is with this. Is p3d is already an established platform. Where fs2020 is a brand new platform. The last thing that should happen is a rushed release that turns everyone away and it dwindles into its grave

                                  • micstatic
                                    micstatic commented
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                                    In fairness MOST people did in fact move over to V5. A small but loud minority said they would never move. Or had hardware/settings problems they couldn't overcome.

                                  • Kevin Hall
                                    Kevin Hall commented
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                                    Dave, I don't know how you can say most people have moved to v5. No doubt many have, others are waiting to see what happens with MSFS. I'm waiting for that and to see what upgrades I might need for either v5 or MSFS. I'm still happy to continue with v4 for the time being, or until devs stop supporting it.
                                    Last edited by Kevin Hall; 30Jul2020, 13:34.

                                  #48
                                  This is a very neurotic hobby. People worrying about possible stutters in a product that isn't released yet and even when it is clearly will not be the finished article.

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                                  • mats0916
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                                    Amen... ;-)

                                  #49
                                  I’m worried about this too...majority of the videos posted today contain stuttering over large cities.
                                  I’m hopeful this will be fixed over time but I don’t know if that’s a realistic expectation.
                                  I saw a German benchmark showing that even on the ideal specs with the 2080Ti the fps can still tank to 20 regardless of the specs.

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                                    #50
                                    Look at the new youtube video posted today. 747 flying in the new FS 2020. Stutter fest all over even in the comments someone mentioned it.

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAEuDjmp5qk

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGa4W-fo5E

                                    It says that because of 4k the stutters are present but i have my doubts. Yes its beautiful but whats the point of having beauty and flying like a slideshow

                                    Nikita Travkin
                                    Last edited by nikita1234; 30Jul2020, 17:14.

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                                    • Swaluver88
                                      Swaluver88 commented
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                                      Have my doubts too

                                    #51
                                    If 4k stutters all over, the VR crowd is going to be very unhappy. VR in P3D v5 however is very good!
                                    William Holland

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                                      #52
                                      Originally posted by wjh308 View Post
                                      If 4k stutters all over, the VR crowd is going to be very unhappy. VR in P3D v5 however is very good!
                                      Originally posted by wjh308 View Post
                                      If 4k stutters all over, the VR crowd is going to be very unhappy. VR in P3D v5 however is very good!
                                      Imagine with the add on like PMDG, how bad the FPS will be, even if default planes can't handle performance PC's.

                                      Nikita Travkin

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                                        #53
                                        Originally posted by DModjo View Post
                                        I’m worried about this too...majority of the videos posted today contain stuttering over large cities.
                                        I’m hopeful this will be fixed over time but I don’t know if that’s a realistic expectation.
                                        I saw a German benchmark showing that even on the ideal specs with the 2080Ti the fps can still tank to 20 regardless of the specs.
                                        Imagine with the add on like PMDG, how bad the FPS will be, even if default planes can't handle performance PC's.

                                        Nikita Travkin

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                                          #54
                                          this is another 4k video maxed out settings and way ba
                                          etter.

                                          https://youtu.be/FAEuDjmp5qk

                                          Pretty good for a intel 7700k and 16gb ram. Im sure at 1080p this is going to be butter smooth.
                                          Manuel Zarate

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                                            #55
                                            Nikita,

                                            You seem to spend a lot of time borrowing trouble from problems for which you have incomplete, guesswork-based information.

                                            Go outside for a walk. Find something to laugh and smile about. When the sim arrives, wait and see what others with hardware similar to yours say. No point filling this forum with grousing, all you are doing is bringing yourself down.

                                            Robert S. Randazzo
                                            PMDG Simulations
                                            http://www.pmdg.com


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                                              #56
                                              Originally posted by Swaluver88 View Post
                                              The good old times
                                              Christian Mbeumo

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                                                #57
                                                Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
                                                Nikita,

                                                You seem to spend a lot of time borrowing trouble from problems for which you have incomplete, guesswork-based information.

                                                Go outside for a walk. Find something to laugh and smile about. When the sim arrives, wait and see what others with hardware similar to yours say. No point filling this forum with grousing, all you are doing is bringing yourself down.
                                                I am very looking forward to FS 2020. Its true what you said, lets just see August 18th. I am still a bit salty that NGXu Is a performance hog even on gaming level hardware and P3D v5 is still unstable at this moment. FS 2020 is very beautiful and has great potential l but I have a hunch it needs good year or two to be optimized. Jumping right on it will be frustrating for most people. I read your article and I do agree with it even though most things look like another level compared to P3D, my hunch never lies. Performance will be also played with just like P3D, tweaking and more tweaking. But lets see...

                                                Nikita Travkin

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                                                  #58
                                                  Hi Nikita

                                                  Originally posted by nikita1234 View Post
                                                  I am still a bit salty that NGXu Is a performance hog even on gaming level hardware and P3D v5 is still unstable at this moment.
                                                  Well, I am running the NGXu on a solid and stable P3Dv5 (knock on wood) at a fluid 30 FPS and I do not consider myself having a top of the line rig at all. Only tweaking done is through the P3D options. So your mileage may vary.

                                                  Cheers,

                                                  Mats Johansson, PMDG Flight Test, ESSA | P3D v5 | Asus Prime Z270-A, Intel i5-7600K 4.8GHz, nVidia GTX 1070 8GB, 2x8GB gSkill 3600 MHz DDR4

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                                                    #59
                                                    Originally posted by nikita1234 View Post
                                                    I am still a bit salty that NGXu Is a performance hog even on gaming level hardware
                                                    Wouldn’t say the NGXu is a “performance hog.” My setup could easily be categorized as “gaming level hardware” and I easily get 40-60 FPS in the NGXu VC at various addon airports with addon weather textures and weather engine etc. In MFS2020 I think the performance will be even better, also judging from what RSR has written.
                                                    Anton Vind
                                                    CPU: i9-9900K, GPU: RTX 2080 SUPER, RAM: 32 GB DDR4 3600 MHz, Drives: 2 TB SSD

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                                                      #60
                                                      Originally posted by Anton Vind View Post

                                                      Wouldn’t say the NGXu is a “performance hog.” My setup could easily be categorized as “gaming level hardware” and I easily get 40-60 FPS in the NGXu VC at various addon airports with addon weather textures and weather engine etc. In MFS2020 I think the performance will be even better, also judging from what RSR has written.
                                                      Hopefully!

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