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Microsoft Flight Simulator Pre-order now available (August 18,2020 release date)

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    Microsoft Flight Simulator Pre-order now available (August 18,2020 release date)

    Sooner that I expected.
    Now that we finally have a release date, hoping for new info about the 737NG3 for it soon!
    Its too optimistic to expect that it will be a launch day release right?

    I also hope that this new info wont affect development of the 777 update

    EDIT:
    Pre-order link is https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/p/mi...ot:overviewtab
    Credits to: Want2BFlyin
    Last edited by snapshot21; 13Jul2020, 14:30.

    #2
    https://youtu.be/8K6KocWSwLo

    787 with the deluxe edition!
    Peter Walsh.

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      #3
      And here is the forgotten link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/p/mi...otverviewtab

      It looks like they are offering three different versions: Standard, Deluxe, and Premium Deluxe. As far as I can tell, the only difference between the versions is additional aircraft available (to be expected) and additional "handcrafted international airports" (not sure how I feel about that, but ok). There is also a note about the app containing "in-app purchases," so micro-transactions will be included.

      Edit: Ignore the smiley in the middle of the link if you see one. I clicked on it, and it seems to still work fine.
      Tim Lincoln
      My YouTube Channel

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        #4
        Xbox game pass.. $60... what is with this 5 additional airports? Are they gonna be charging for airports? This sim may cost more money than P3D ever will.. let's see how this rolls
        Alex Kulak
        PMDG Studier and flyer

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        • Want2BFlyin
          Want2BFlyin commented
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          The additional airports in the Deluxe and Premium Deluxe versions are described as "handcrafted international airports," so it would seem that with those versions you are getting airports that have had some additional hands-on work done. Presumably this would be akin to purchasing a third-party version of an airport to replace a stock version, but that is just a guess on my part. Perhaps we won't need to get third-party versions of these particular airports in the new sim, so we can save our money for other third-party airport add-ons?

        • Swaluver88
          Swaluver88 commented
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          I doubt it. If anything they're gonna compete with flightbeam and fly Tampa and etc. They're in it for the money if ask me, But that's entirely my whole opinion. Theres a lot of red flags to me. Lots. I mean for instance the pricing matches up to every big game franchise released. Let's see how this rolls. If it turns out to be good I'll grab it in a year after release if it's not well we will know soon enough

        #5
        Originally posted by Want2BFlyin View Post
        And here is the forgotten link: https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/p/mi...otverviewtab

        It looks like they are offering three different versions: Standard, Deluxe, and Premium Deluxe. As far as I can tell, the only difference between the versions is additional aircraft available (to be expected) and additional "handcrafted international airports" (not sure how I feel about that, but ok). There is also a note about the app containing "in-app purchases," so micro-transactions will be included.

        Edit: Ignore the smiley in the middle of the link if you see one. I clicked on it, and it seems to still work fine.
        I'm hoping the only in app purchases it refers to is the ability to upgrade to the other versions later on
        Alex Farmer A.K.A Goldstar Textures

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          #6
          They also don't mention what aircraft come with the Standard version (or if there are any "handcrafted international airports" that are included in the Standard version). It would seem that you need to get at least the Deluxe version if you want to fly the 172, which in my opinion is an aircraft that should be included in the Standard version.

          Edit: And to clarify a previous post, the 787 comes in the Premium Deluxe version, not the Deluxe version.
          Tim Lincoln
          My YouTube Channel

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            #7
            What you'll get with each edition:
            Peter Walsh.

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            • Want2BFlyin
              Want2BFlyin commented
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              Now those graphics would have been nice to have been included in the Microsoft store page. lol

            #8
            Originally posted by Want2BFlyin View Post
            They also don't mention what aircraft come with the Standard version (or if there are any "handcrafted international airports" that are included in the Standard version). It would seem that you need to get at least the Deluxe version if you want to fly the 172, which in my opinion is an aircraft that should be included in the Standard version.

            Edit: And to clarify a previous post, the 787 comes in the Premium Deluxe version, not the Deluxe version.
            confirmed-aircraft-microsoft-flight-simulator.jpgconfirmed-airports-microsoft-flight-simulator.jpg

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              #9
              Only 5 more weeks until I can get rid of P3D for good!

              Peter Walsh.

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              • KVSandleben
                KVSandleben commented
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                I would do so in an instance, but I'm a VR only flyer these days. And since MSFS comes without support on release I will hold on to P3D until VR support gets added to MSFS.

              #10
              I hope to see the PMDG Boeings soon enough in this sim, this truly is the next generation.
              Gino Zagarrio
              KBUF

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                #11
                People seem to be wary about the pricing, but in the current addon markets for P3D and X-Plane, paying $30 for five addon aircraft and five addon airports would be a steal.
                AJ Frank

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                  #12
                  When will the PMDG 737NGXu and NG3 be available and included in the new flight simulator?

                  Clive Alexander
                  Last edited by clive6354; 13Jul2020, 14:55.
                  Clive Alexander

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                  • Ephedrin
                    Ephedrin commented
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                    NG3 as soon as possible. That‘s for sure. When it‘s ready and the sim seems to be a calm target without the need for PMDG to update every 3 days they will release it. No point in holding back for no reason.

                  • Tbarker1989
                    Tbarker1989 commented
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                    NG3 will be in MSFS. NGXu will not. This was talked about when the NGXu was released.

                  #13
                  I'll stick with P3D
                  William Holland

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                    #14
                    Originally posted by clive6354 View Post
                    When will the PMDG 737NGXu and NG3 be available and included in the new flight simulator?
                    Can't tell you anything about the NG3, but the NGXu won't be available for the new flight simulator, that's what the NG3 is for.
                    Captain Kevin

                    Kevin Yang

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                      #15
                      Originally posted by VBHB View Post
                      Only 5 more weeks until I can get rid of P3D for good!
                      Prepare to be disappointed... If you've got a stable P3D running with numerous payware add-ons, I really wouldn't get rid of it in 5 weeks...
                      Trevor Hannant

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                      • Ephedrin
                        Ephedrin commented
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                        Not necessarily disappointed. I‘m aware that it‘s an initial release and most likely rather a v0.5 than a v1.0 and released much too early due to market pressure. But I hope that within the next months the bugs will be sorted and it will become a good platform for addon devs to jump in. 1 month beta?! Can‘t be taken as a serious release. It‘s more of an open beta. But as long as MS won‘t abandon it like they did FSX it has the potential to grow incredibly.

                      #16
                      Originally posted by TrevorHannant View Post

                      Prepare to be disappointed... If you've got a stable P3D running with numerous payware add-ons, I really wouldn't get rid of it in 5 weeks...
                      i second this statement

                      Chase Stigberg
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                        #17
                        The new simulator will be ok for the kids to fly over their own house and spotting the animals as they graze on the land
                        Clive Alexander

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                          #18
                          Originally posted by clive6354 View Post
                          The new simulator will be ok for the kids to fly over their own house and spotting the animals as they graze on the land
                          Weird that PMDG is developing their products for MSFS then, right?
                          Alex Pugh

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                          • IceTeaFoot
                            IceTeaFoot commented
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                            Well, that comment is to be expected Alex, what can be easier than to hate because you are not able to say anything good?

                          • Ephedrin
                            Ephedrin commented
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                            Don‘t argue with pessimists. You‘ll just get annoyed. For 60$ I‘ll happily use it as a VFR only sim to drive my A2As in 1000ft actoss the world and discover the most beautiful places on earth. If it really becomes a dead end for IFR airliner flying then I‘ll still have a working Prepar3D. Who cares

                          #19
                          P5D,DEAD.LOL
                          Jiekeng Luo

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                            #20
                            Originally posted by clive6354 View Post
                            The new simulator will be ok for the kids to fly over their own house and spotting the animals as they graze on the land
                            Absolute clown.
                            Peter Walsh.

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                              #21
                              Microsoft just did the same thing Lockheed Martin did with v5: launching before it's ready.
                              There are a lot of things to fix, tweaks, add, and adjust before MSFS can really overcome the two market leaders. But it seems like starting selling by now is a priority for Microsoft.

                              In my opinion, I think that MSFS will not be fairly usable or will not give a complete joyful experience, at least until the end of the year. Maybe by January 2021, enough "hotfix" and updates will be done to give a somewhat enjoyable session of simulation. Needless to mention that the ones that will fully bring the simulator alive will be the add-on's developers. They will make each aspect of the simulator flawless, because they put their heart in it, and not just money (like simulators' developers).

                              We should not get rid of P3D for a while, and it will not be the time to replace any simulator completely for at least a few months from now. I rather think it will be a slow and smooth transition into the new platform. And it will take a while for sure, but in the end, we're at the dawn of a new era for flight simulation. Initially it'll be hard and unstable, but with time, we as the community, and the devs, will find a sweet spot and a common point of interest, that will be profitable for both sides if brought to improvements.
                              Giovanni D. Tarar
                              FAA CPL+IR Single & Multiengine Land
                              I love flying when I'm in a bad mood

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                              • CBT_Phoenix
                                CBT_Phoenix commented
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                                Exactly, me too. I'm still will v4.5 and I'm not planning to change it anytime soon. I will purchase MSFS, but it will not be for serious flying, but only for my own transition path. The idea is to be ready to switch at any time, so I'm not uncomfortable in case the market direction changes.
                                As you said, let the pros handle it. PMDG will make fantastic aircrafts out of the pathetic way Microsoft designed the flight dynamics. It wouldn't be the first PMDG actually creates something the bypasses the sim's limitations.
                                I will definitely support further developments as well and I will not stop buying P3D add-ons, waiting for the perfect ones for MSFS to come out. The first ones will be somewhat relatable, then mediocre, acceptable, good, very good, and in the end we'll have spectacular stuff at the level of current FlyTampa, or LatinVFR.

                              • B777ER
                                B777ER commented
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                                I'm thinking MSFS will be great for GA, VFR flying. Commercial tubeliner type, P3D. None of my Precision Flight Control or Jetmax hardware is listed as compatible with MSFS, nor is Track IR. Myolan us to stay with P3D.

                              • RichardMcDonaldWoods
                                RichardMcDonaldWoods commented
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                                I can see no advantage to MFS in the shorter term. I think that for the remainder of my flight simming career I will be using P3Dv5.1+.

                              #22
                              I am going all in for the Deluxe Version. I wonder if QW had any input in the 787? I mean their 787 is amazing with the EFB and upgraded Nav charts. I wonder if MSFS2020 will be that sophisticated. I also wonder if these enhanced sceneries like KSFO will be better than says FSDT's/DD.Flightbeam and Flytampa scenery. But without the PMDG planes, the sim is useless to me. I hope they follow shortly after the release.
                              Paul Gugliotta

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                              • Want2BFlyin
                                Want2BFlyin commented
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                                Just a heads up. If you are getting MSFS for the 787, it looks like you'll need to get the Premium Deluxe version.

                              #23
                              I swore PMDG said when the NGXu was first released there would be a credit towards MS2020??

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                              #24
                              Looking forward to my popcorn on the 19th when I can sit and watch all the wailing and knashing of teeth 😁
                              Dave Smith

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                                #25
                                Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                                I am going all in for the Deluxe Version. I wonder if QW had any input in the 787? I mean their 787 is amazing with the EFB and upgraded Nav charts. I wonder if MSFS2020 will be that sophisticated.
                                I believe it's not even in the Alpha build yet and there's a month to go... Given the A320 was added a while back and there's still issues with it...

                                Trevor Hannant

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                                • Want2BFlyin
                                  Want2BFlyin commented
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                                  MSFS has been in Alpha for some time, and is scheduled to enter Beta towards the end of this month.

                                • TrevorHannant
                                  TrevorHannant commented
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                                  I know... And I know the 787 is not yet in the Alpha build. And that some airports keep regressing, and that the A320/B748 are both far from perfect despite weeks of testing which makes you wonder what state the B787 will be in on release

                                #26
                                Alright captains and FOs now let's stop speculating. Everyone knows the release dating and pricing. Time to get back to everyday life. Gotta pay the Bill's somehow
                                Alex Kulak
                                PMDG Studier and flyer

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                                  #27
                                  Why don't y'all look at Microsofts track record of abandoning products? Why would you ever leave P3D which will always be in active development? Microsoft will release this sim and as soon as it doesn't make any more sense, will drop it like a rock, fixed or not. P3D is essentially FSX that was fixed to better use your computers resources. P3D will be around and updated long after Microsoft abandons Flightsim for a third time!
                                  William Holland

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                                    #28
                                    Originally posted by wjh308 View Post
                                    Why don't y'all look at Microsofts track record of abandoning products? Why would you ever leave P3D which will always be in active development? Microsoft will release this sim and as soon as it doesn't make any more sense, will drop it like a rock, fixed or not. P3D is essentially FSX that was fixed to better use your computers resources. P3D will be around and updated long after Microsoft abandons Flightsim for a third time!

                                    Well, given that its Asobo and not Microsoft, who's developing it, I highly doubt it. Asobo seem real passionate about this project, and I highly doubt that they will abandon it for the time being. I could be wrong, but just let me live in my little utopian-dream-world.
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                                    • KVSandleben
                                      KVSandleben commented
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                                      But Asobo works for MS. When MS drops the sim and Asobo will stop getting funded to continue development then it's over for the sim.

                                    • Anders Bermann
                                      Anders Bermann commented
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                                      I seriously doubt that would happen. The attitude and demeanor that Asobo/MS have approached this project tells a different story, to be honest. At least the way I understand it. But if you absolutely want to utilize the most dystopian expectations, then all power to ya.

                                    #29
                                    Originally posted by wjh308 View Post
                                    Why don't y'all look at Microsofts track record of abandoning products? Why would you ever leave P3D which will always be in active development? Microsoft will release this sim and as soon as it doesn't make any more sense, will drop it like a rock, fixed or not. P3D is essentially FSX that was fixed to better use your computers resources. P3D will be around and updated long after Microsoft abandons Flightsim for a third time!
                                    You will buy it. And you know you will.




                                    William
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                                      #30
                                      I certainly won't be rushing to buy it. I haven't rushed to buy P3Dv5 either. I've never understood why people buy things so early and then moan that it isn't stable or their favourite content isn't available yet.

                                      If PMDG revert to their "entertainment" product price levels with MSFS then I might consider switching over, but if the price level is equivalent to premium "commercial" P3D then I don't think so. I've had to re-buy all the licences at higher prices once, I have no wish to repeat that process unless the advantages of MSFS are worth the cost.

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                                      • Lanica
                                        Lanica commented
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                                        It's called addiction. You know, the "curiosity killed the cat" sort of thing. Guilty as charged.

                                      • Kevin Hall
                                        Kevin Hall commented
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                                        Yes I suffer from the addiction. I felt the urge to click the advance purchase button too.
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