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    Offline ATC applications

    Hey guys curious what is recommended for ATC in P3D4.5
    Ro Faulk

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    #2
    There is not a realistic ATC simulation. Many folks like to fly on line, I just use the ATC between my ears.
    Dan Downs KCRP

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      #3
      I use ProATC thats a pretty good ATC program with SID and STARs amongst other things.

      Mattias Nordgren
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        #4
        Pilot Edge is probably the most superior online atc service imo.

        Will Barker
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          #5
          I use Pro-ATC X, which is rather easy to use and as Mattias says - it also uses SID and STARS,
          Finn Jacobsen
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            #6
            Originally posted by DDowns View Post
            There is not a realistic ATC simulation. Many folks like to fly on line, I just use the ATC between my ears.
            Me too Nothing more realistic than that
            Victor Green

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              #7
              Pilot edge?
              Jordan Collins

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                #8
                I use PROATCX as well. It uses SID/STARS plus it’s better than default.

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                  #9
                  will do some research and possible try proATCx tomorrow.
                  voice activated correct? need to verbally practice radio coms! kinda what attracted me to Pilot2ATC
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                    #10
                    I use voxATC which looks pretty efficient at ground and for SID and Star. It is not usefull for weather avoidance

                    Pierre Laroche
                    Pierre Laroche

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                      #11
                      I use Pilot Edge for west coast flying, and no ATC for other parts of the globe I fly into.
                      John Walker

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                      • nighthawk
                        nighthawk commented
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                        Yeah. That is the only downside to it. It is a very good service though. They are slowly expanding. US full coverage will likely be within the next few years.

                      #12
                      I use Pilot2ATC, as it is voice controlled, has a copilot to mange a lot of the ATC conversation and radio tuning, and the Developer provides really great support.

                      You can run on a networked PC or the Sim PC.

                      Have been using for 4 years.

                      Bill Clark
                      Bill Clark

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                        #13
                        For offline, yes proATCx definitely better than the default.

                        But nothing beat flying online which I've spent thousands of hours for the past 10 years or so.


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                          #14
                          Im learning so for now I think Pro-ATCx will suffice. Thanks for the info guys, indeed helpful

                          Reading their free manual before i purchase tonight and am wondering how to deactivate the default ATC?

                          does ProATCx do the following?
                          • clear to IAF altitude
                          • hand off to tower
                          • vector to final
                          • permission to land
                          Last edited by oblongmushroom; 09Jan2020, 19:56.
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                            Yes everything, aslso different approaches, RNAV etc. i think also it does pretty good vectoring jobs! I am quite impressed with PRO ATC X, it could use some tweaks,, and after using it for many years, I would like to have more features added, but it not only suffices, it enhances a lot. I don't fly online, because I want AI, and I am very satisfied

                          #15
                          Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
                          how to deactivate the default ATC?
                          You don't have to. Just don't interact with the default ATC.


                          Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
                          • clear to IAF altitude
                          Yes, PRO-ATC/X provides clearances to altitudes including all altitude limits on SIDs, STARs and approaches. Usually this works quite well, i.e. you are cleared to IAF altitude when approaching it. Sometimes however, PRO-ATC/X will keep you at a rather high altitude (e.g. last altitude limit on the STAR) until quite close to IAF and then it might be too late to descend in time. I always ignore it in these cases and just descend. But 95% of the time it works fine.

                          Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
                          • hand off to tower
                          Yes, once you are cleared for final approach you are handed off to the tower controller.

                          Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
                          • vector to final
                          Yes, when the last waypoint of the STAR is not the first waypoint on the approach, PRO-ATC/X will provide vectors. The same is true without a STAR when filing a route to any waypoint close to the destination airport, i.e. you will get vectors from that waypoint to final approach. You can also at any time ask for a direct to a waypoint further along your route and (if cleared) you will also get vectors.

                          Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
                          • permission to land
                          Yes, the tower controller will clear you to land. This will however always happen on first contact with tower no matter how far from the runway you are, so not very realistic.
                          Last edited by Bianfable; 09Jan2020, 22:58.
                          Fabian Machate

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                            #16
                            Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post
                            will do some research and possible try proATCx tomorrow.
                            voice activated correct? need to verbally practice radio coms! kinda what attracted me to Pilot2ATC
                            Ro

                            PATC is not voice activated & does not use TTS like P2A & VOX.
                            cheers
                            john martin

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                              #17
                              PRO ATC X is maybe the best choice, but it has still issues and some workarounds are needed, mainly in the approach phase, also caused by some not correct instructions in the related Navigraph AIRAC files (altitudes). However, its development seems to have stopped 2 years ago, no news ever since and if you write for support in the forum, everything that does not work is your fault... I tried Pilot2ATC, but I don't know why it's heavy on my laptop client computer and, more important, I don't like the TTS voices, far from the sound of the real ATC and with only a couple different voices, otherwise it will cost you an arm and a leg...
                              James Goggi

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                              • vadriver
                                vadriver commented
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                                but if you use PATC which has an incomplete sound file inventory (missing sector names / callsigns ) & needs phonetics, how is that ........

                              #18
                              Thanks guys, extremely helpful information!
                              Ro Faulk

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                                #19
                                purchased ProATCx and received nothing but a receipt! been duped!
                                Ro Faulk

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                                  #20
                                  Send a ticket at their site in the tab called "support/Email" they will get back to you in no time.

                                  Kind regards
                                  Mattias Nordgren
                                  https://www.klm-va.nl/

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                                    #21
                                    Originally posted by PAINMAN View Post
                                    Send a ticket at their site in the tab called "support/Email" they will get back to you in no time.

                                    Kind regards
                                    thanks did that, just waiting now
                                    Ro Faulk

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                                      #22
                                      all sorted out now, now more to learn!
                                      Ro Faulk

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                                        #23
                                        Glad you got it sorted.

                                        Kind regards
                                        Mattias Nordgren
                                        https://www.klm-va.nl/

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                                          #24
                                          Thanks Mattias, They have a good moderators over there that got thing moving.

                                          went through the basic tutorial last night and it was so cool to hear real voices on a flight! nothing is perfect but the immersion with PROATC is great.

                                          I did notice the ATC trying to keep me at FL330 even at my last way-point?
                                          Last edited by oblongmushroom; 12Jan2020, 19:59.
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                                            #25
                                            Originally posted by oblongmushroom View Post

                                            I did notice the ATC trying to keep me at FL330 even at my last way-point?
                                            Expect headaches for the approach phase...
                                            James Goggi

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