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[08NOV19] Announcing PMDG 737NGXu for Prepar3D v4

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  • SierraFox5418
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    Although I greatly value what you guys have done so far for the flightsim community, I have to disagree with you on one point:
    I am NOT excited for the new platform FS2020. I wouldn't be if it was any other platform.

    Maybe this is my personal problem but I don't like too much change. P3Dv4 is working very well for me now, stable, performance is good and I don't see a reason to switch to something else.
    It's like everywhere else, new developments always bring the feeling that the customer now has obsolete soft-/hardware and needs to update even though everything works fine.

    I already made the switch from FSX to P3D, basically bought all the planes a second time (yeah, I'm crazy... ) and now there is this implication that all of the PMDG development is headed to the FS 2020. So that kind of means that if I want to use PMDG aircraft in the future, I need to buy the new platform (which has to lead to a hardware upgrade on my PC eventually).

    The truth is, I always want to own PMDG aircraft because in my opinion they are the best out there. That's why I never switched to X-Plane (no PMDG).
    I hoped the 737 MAX would be included initially on release, so now I have to evaluate what the new bird brings in his claws. My personal hype for the NG3 has shallowed out because of this.
    Fortunately, I am in a situation where I don't really have to think about every penny twice. It just has a bit of a bitter taste at the end because it is basically an upgrade for lots of money (again ).

    Nevertheless, don't take this as a rant or whatever, I just wanted to share my view because I could imagine not being the only one feeling like this.
    I'm still looking forward to buying the NGXu (as I said, with PMDG you cannot pick wrong) and I'l guess I just have to see what the future holds for all of us.

    In this manner, I want to thank you for all your products and I wish everyone

    Always three green !

    Fabian Sieber, Germany

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  • rsrandazzo
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    Jan,

    Thanks! I wasn't singling you out- to be clear. Plenty of "Rob wagging a finger at" to go around in a couple threads here. LOL

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  • vysous
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    Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
    Hey Everybody,

    Please be nice to one another. We are all simmers- and we are all here for the same reason.
    I apologize for being rude-ish in my post above. I just got fed up by all those "we are entitled to get something because of....".

    On a different note: I am super-excited to fly NGXu, thank you for all the hard work. NGX is my all-time favourite, mostly because it is a huge fun to fly a lot of short hops all around Europe for vRYR airline .

    With kind regards, Jan

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  • xTiMm_
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    Congratulations to this release and for the news! Exciting news! Means a lot more than you think
    If you already decide, you have much more knowlege about the new Flight Simulator than we actually know/think/guess.

    But: Where are those cool third-party-addon integrations like GSX boarding, possible airline-sound-packages, "interaction" with cabin crew what we know from other developers?
    Why do you close your addons for those cool immersive options?

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  • rsrandazzo
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    Hey Everybody,

    Please be nice to one another. We are all simmers- and we are all here for the same reason.

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  • mighty747
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    Wow, thank you, but no freighter?

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  • vysous
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    Originally posted by CannonousCrash View Post
    Really disappointed with the disdain you show towards your customers. First you virtually announce a cease in new products for any sim available right now, and then you drop a 99 dollar paid update. Its nice that you will take the 99 dollars off the ngx and max products, but lets not beat around the bush, its not going to be 25 dollars to get the whole thing in MSFS.

    Perhaps this is all an exercise in seeing how fickle the community is by dropping your bombs in the first post and most people being disappointed by it, but now everyone is full of praise.

    The biggest kicker is that you're charging 99 dollars for this update, it seems to be palatable for most that have replied, but you could have treated your customers with a bit of loyalty and respect by not charging so much for it.
    Please stop moaning like a 10 year old. It is not some "minor update" but essentialy a new piece of software. Sure, I also think that 99USD is a lot. If you do not want to buy it, do not buy it. But please stop using these stupid "out of loyality and respect please sell us an update for 20 bucks" phrases.

    Best, Jan

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  • CannonousCrash
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    Really disappointed with the disdain you show towards your customers. First you virtually announce a cease in new products for any sim available right now, and then you drop a 99 dollar paid update. Its nice that you will take the 99 dollars off the ngx and max products, but lets not beat around the bush, its not going to be 25 dollars to get the whole thing in MSFS.

    Perhaps this is all an exercise in seeing how fickle the community is by dropping your bombs in the first post and most people being disappointed by it, but now everyone is full of praise.

    The biggest kicker is that you're charging 99 dollars for this update, it seems to be palatable for most that have replied, but you could have treated your customers with a bit of loyalty and respect by not charging so much for it.

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  • Captain Kevin
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post
    It appears to be the same kit. Unless I’m missing something.
    It's not. I asked via support ticket, one will be released in a few days.

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  • Anders Bermann
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post
    I downloaded the NGX 737-800/900 and it appears slightly different (I.e. no shadow layer) but it looks very similar. I plan to transfer a previous paint to the available kit to see if it lines up and how it loads with the NGXu version.
    Well, of course they're similar! They're both a Boeing 737.
    But I would assume, that since the models are different, you would need a new and updated paintkit to reflect the model changes.

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  • Stefan_888
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    Robert,Kyle and Chris, and other members of PMDG team.
    I would would
    personally wait for the Looong boy to get released(a.k.a MAX-10),before proceding withe the max series.Then we would have all series of MAX together...
    Happily living for ever after in my hangar

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  • Want2BFlyin
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    Thanks, Michael. Someone had already commented to that effect a bit later in this thread. The next 737NGX flight that I was planning to do is a Lucky Air flight, and I wasn't able to find any liveries for this airline in the Operations Center. I was able to find an old NGX livery elsewhere that works, so I guess I will be doing that flight with the NGX.

  • Michael Codd
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    No Tim, they are different models. There are plenty of great PBR liveries already available with the NGXu and I am sure lots more will become available in the future.

  • SledheadAK
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    Bravo, team! Bravo! A fantastic release and offer to future customers of the PMDG MSFS 737 line.

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  • PC Pilot
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    Originally posted by Woogey View Post
    Good day gents,
    This is my first post here, inspired by the 737, of which I build every day at the Renton factory. Just a question for Robert or any of you who have purchased the brand new NGXu release: Is there a P-8A Poseidon model with this version? If there is no military derivative, I will have to pass on this particular upgrade.

    Let it be known, I would gladly pay $150 total, Or even $50 for a standalone military derivatives visual upgrade pack, that would include the C-40, P-8A, and the Wedgetail. The key phrase here being “Visual upgrade”. I would be perfectly satisfied if it was only a 3-D model, with zero difference to the flight and systems modeling.

    Sincerely, Preston Martin
    I just checked the Ops Center and I did not see it for any of the NGXu liveries so I’d say no. However, someone may paint one in the near future and I imagine it won’t be long before someone paints a C-40 as well.

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  • Want2BFlyin
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    Originally posted by wiss View Post
    Hi everybody! I would still like to fly for the moment the -600 and -700 of the older NGX, so, would there be any conflict if I have the -600, -700, -800 and 900 of the older NGX, with the new NGXu at the same time?
    Please don't forget to include your full name on your posts, or in your signature, since you agreed to do that when you signed up on these forums.

    Since the NGX and NGXu are completely different aircraft licenses, they will install side-by-side in P3D. At least they appear to do so when I installed the NGXu. I haven't actually had a chance to fly it yet (hopefully in the morning).

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  • Want2BFlyin
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    Originally posted by Woogey View Post
    Let it be known, I would gladly pay $150 total, Or even $50 for a standalone military derivatives visual upgrade pack, that would include the C-40, P-8A, and the Wedgetail. The key phrase here being “Visual upgrade”. I would be perfectly satisfied if it was only a 3-D model, with zero difference to the flight and systems modeling.
    While I certainly believe that you would be satisfied with a purely visual model for military versions, I doubt the good folks at PMDG would be satisfied with that.

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  • wiss
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    Hi everybody! I would still like to fly for the moment the -600 and -700 of the older NGX, so, would there be any conflict if I have the -600, -700, -800 and 900 of the older NGX, with the new NGXu at the same time?

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  • bluespellman@gmail.co
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    Thanks for the moderate earlier stroke RSR. It’lol be purchased and then flown as soon as I land in MIA tomorrow night in the French voting machine from my current real world trip.

    Ryan Spellman

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  • Woogey
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    Good day gents,
    This is my first post here, inspired by the 737, of which I build every day at the Renton factory. Just a question for Robert or any of you who have purchased the brand new NGXu release: Is there a P-8A Poseidon model with this version? If there is no military derivative, I will have to pass on this particular upgrade.

    Let it be known, I would gladly pay $150 total, Or even $50 for a standalone military derivatives visual upgrade pack, that would include the C-40, P-8A, and the Wedgetail. The key phrase here being “Visual upgrade”. I would be perfectly satisfied if it was only a 3-D model, with zero difference to the flight and systems modeling.

    Sincerely, Preston Martin
    Last edited by Woogey; 08Nov2019, 05:07. Reason: Grammar

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  • PC Pilot
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    I downloaded the NGX 737-800/900 and it appears slightly different (I.e. no shadow layer) but it looks very similar. I plan to transfer a previous paint to the available kit to see if it lines up and how it loads with the NGXu version.

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  • adf
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    Originally posted by PC Pilot View Post

    It appears to be the same kit. Unless I’m missing something.
    I don't think so, but I could be wrong:

    Originally posted by vscimone View Post

    No, the models are completely rebuilt for the NGXu, and no original NGX liveries will show.

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  • Want2BFlyin
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    I don't know if it would be the same kit. Apparently it is a completely different model, and liveries for the NGX will not work on the NGXu. I would assume (I'm not a livery painter, so I could very well be wrong) that this means a different paint kit is needed.

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  • PC Pilot
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    Originally posted by adf View Post
    Has there been any word on a paint kit?
    It appears to be the same kit. Unless I’m missing something.

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  • flyinpilot212121
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    The recent proceedings by Robert is a humour in its own league, makes me like PMDG even more!!!
    I’m holding off purchasing tonight only because it will keep me up all night, gotta work in the morning, however I will be purchasing tommorow first thing after work, Have been waiting for this one!!! Thank you Robert and the PMDG team for the hard work put into this, it’s very much appreciated!

    Gerry Soulliere

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  • Want2BFlyin
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    I wouldn't expect the NG3 to be "free" when you get it for MSFS 2020. Odds are it will be priced somewhere above the $99.99 that you will pay for NGXu, so you will just need to pay whatever the difference is at that point (if NG3 is priced at $129.99, then you would just pay $30).

  • ActiveSky
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    Thank you for this incredible aircraft
    A big thank you to all who worked on the project.
    I'm so happy the weekend can come.

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  • PC Pilot
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    Originally posted by TrentXWB View Post
    Does this mean NG3 will be only on MSFS2020 only? And NGXu is NG3 version of P3D? I'm so confused. I don't want to buy NG3 again For P3D.
    Yeah, I kind of had that "Oh crap!" moment too and thought I might have accidently purchased the NGX twice. This is how I understand it:

    NGXu - for current P3D users (but different than NGX-it's an upgrade).
    NG3 - for MSFS 2020 (with a limited time free upgrade from NGXu when it's released).

    Hopefully this is correct . . . or else I made a big boo-boo. (Although the NGXu looks pretty nice. Just hoping to figure out some of the differences from the NGX.)

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  • adf
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    Has there been any word on a paint kit?

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  • rgamurot
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    THANK YOU!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you for adding real time loading independent of ground services!!!!!!

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