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Too early for speculation & debate? - PMDG B77W vs B772

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    Too early for speculation & debate? - PMDG B77W vs B772

    So, lots of rumors and speculation regarding the Triple 7. There have been a few subtle hints of the -300ER being the first to hit the market.

    What's the general consensus on release? -300ER only? 200LR, 200ER or Freighter following later as separate aircraft in the same fashion as the 737NGs were released? We can see what the Forum community voted on, at least between the 300ER & 200ER, no other 777 types were included in the poll. It was dead even.

    Anyway, I'm hoping for a late summer release of any PMDG 777!

    Mark Guinto
    KSAN KNKX 馃洬

    #2
    I鈥檓 hoping for the 200ER to be released first.
    Tony Simpson

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      #3
      I only care about the 200ER. Maybe a 777F.

      Would swap both for a single 767-300ER.
      NUNO PINTO
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      • EvgenyK
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        Hi! That's interesting. May I ask you why? I always thought that 300ER is the most popular variant.

      • Nuno Pinto
        Nuno Pinto commented
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        Hard to say, really. I guess it's the proportion of the body vs engines, the A/C just looks better in my eyes and it can still fly my 5000nm legs with relative ease. Plus, lots (3) of engines to choose from

      • EvgenyK
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        Got it. Thank you for the answer!

      #4
      I 'm hope 77F first
      Knight Dong

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      • Pablo Vazquez
        Pablo Vazquez commented
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        Yeah... Me too!!

      • sebihepp
        sebihepp commented
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        I am also only interessted in 777F

      #5
      With no previews it's hard to see what would release first. I honestly hope for the 200ER or 300ER. But we'll see.
      Yoshi Elder

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        #6
        I couldn鈥檛 care which one comes out first.
        Like the 737, I am only buying one version. I really don鈥檛 see the need (for me) to have so many variants. But the 777 will be my plane of choice, until PMDG makes the 787 someday.
        Paul Gugliotta
        13900K CPU - 4090 GPU

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          #7
          Paul I agree.. Depending on which one comes out as part of the cheaper offer I'll get either the 777-300ER or the 77F. I have barely flown the 777 in P3D anyway and I know I won't in MSFS. I want one of them but it will completely depend on how they release it. I'll save the money for the complete 747 lineup lol
          Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX4080, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k
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            #8
            You can speculate as much as you like, but there is currently NO information out there that would allow any educated guess. So any speculation is just that: (Uneducated) Speculation.

            Rob has said on one of my livestreams that PMDG have already made their plans but are not willing to share them with the public at the moment.

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              #9
              Originally posted by Ephedrin View Post
              Paul I agree.. Depending on which one comes out as part of the cheaper offer I'll get either the 777-300ER or the 77F. I have barely flown the 777 in P3D anyway and I know I won't in MSFS. I want one of them but it will completely depend on how they release it. I'll save the money for the complete 747 lineup lol
              I wish I had that self-control鈥 the 200ER just looks right, so that has to be in the hangar. And the F, well, she hauls freight, so just yes. And the ANZ 300ER, yeah, have to.
              Mike Dryden
              GFO Janitor
              Retrieving lost & abandoned airframes
              My liveries: https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...kel-s-liveries

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              • Ephedrin
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                haha yes, that was my big problem in P3D... but I found that I didn't touch it much, so...

              #10
              It's a little off-topic... But since it's about addon speculation... did PMDG say anything about whether the new tablet would also come to the DC-6??
              Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX4080, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k
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              • Papy59
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                As for the tablet, its release was planned for the summer (2022), it just remains to define the year.

              • Ephedrin
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                That wasn't my question I actually don't care WHEN it comes.. I'd just like to have charts in the DC6 ^^

              #11


              I think the U is for Universal, so I鈥檇 expect so.
              Last edited by Mickel; 07Mar2023, 13:14.
              Mike Dryden
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              Retrieving lost & abandoned airframes
              My liveries: https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...kel-s-liveries

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                #12
                Originally posted by Ephedrin View Post
                It's a little off-topic... But since it's about addon speculation... did PMDG say anything about whether the new tablet would also come to the DC-6??
                Actually yes, I asked the question once about, as Mike put it above, does the Universal mean Universal to the 737, or Universal to all PMDG products? Rob answered that bringing it to the -6 was an idea he had floated to the team, but whether it would ever come to fruition would depend on if the mob following him with pitchforks for suggesting it managed to find him hiding under his desk.
                Regards,
                --Joe Markowski

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                  #13
                  Hey Everyone!

                  Please allow me to put the speculation to rest. We will release one of the currently flying models of 777 as the first 777 in our 777 product release cycle for MSFS.

                  I hope that eliminates the confusion.

                  Robert S. Randazzo
                  PMDG Simulations
                  http://www.pmdg.com


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                  • Swaluver88
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                    Broad but to the point...

                  • Ephedrin
                    Ephedrin commented
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                    Obviously the 777-9 has flown... hasn't it?!

                  • CAPT Shark
                    CAPT Shark commented
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                    Thank you, Captain! Can we at least assume that the Triple 7 will be a passenger version?? I guess we can go back to wishing what liveries will be included with the "first" B77? package, now.

                  #14
                  Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
                  Hey Everyone!

                  Please allow me to put the speculation to rest. We will release one of the currently flying models of 777 as the first 777 in our 777 product release cycle for MSFS.

                  I hope that eliminates the confusion.
                  So....the one on the left. Got it.
                  Captain Kevin

                  Kevin Yang

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                    #15
                    Excellent choice Kevin make it two.
                    Danny Z.Cebis

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                      #16
                      I really don't care which is first, I just want one pax 777 as a stop gap long hauler before the 747 which will do most of my long halls. So any pax 777 will do for now.
                      Bill Casey

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                        #17
                        My pick would be:

                        My-777-pick.jpg
                        Vaughan Martell KDTW PP-ASEL

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                          #18
                          Originally posted by CAPT Shark View Post
                          ......hoping for a late summer release of any PMDG 777!
                          but it's already autumn
                          cheers
                          john martin

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                          • CAPT Shark
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                            Hahaha I forgot about you guys down there.

                          • rsrandazzo
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                            Well played, John. Well played. - RSR

                          • vadriver
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                            RSR

                            & now it's autumn, for summer, even late summer ..... can i suggest you "play" with "your" challenge, an A35K
                            Last edited by vadriver; 15Mar2023, 11:00.

                          #19
                          We don't even know if they will keep the same type of packages they had with P3D (777-200LR/F - 777-300ER - 777-200ER) or if they will release each version seperately like they did with the 737.

                          One thing is sur, if they proceed like the 737, don't expect that the most popular version, the 777-300ER will come first. I would expect the -200LR or -200F to come first and they know some people will buy it anyway because they won't hav the patience to wait for the 777-300ER.

                          We could think that if the 777-200LR is sold separately, only a few would buy it, so it might comme as a combo with the -200F. Anyway, the 737 series prooved that selling the less popular 737-600 could work if the price is low. So why not?

                          So, IHMO, I expect the 777-200F to come first.
                          Stephane Dirand

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                          • CCOBB2 RNAV
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                            鈥淚t鈥檚 a profit deal鈥 -Navin R. Johnson

                          #20
                          Originally posted by gordon24 View Post
                          We don't even know if they will keep the same type of packages they had with P3D (777-200LR/F - 777-300ER - 777-200ER) or if they will release each version seperately like they did with the 737.

                          One thing is sur, if they proceed like the 737, don't expect that the most popular version, the 777-300ER will come first. I would expect the -200LR or -200F to come first and they know some people will buy it anyway because they won't hav the patience to wait for the 777-300ER.

                          We could think that if the 777-200LR is sold separately, only a few would buy it, so it might comme as a combo with the -200F. Anyway, the 737 series prooved that selling the less popular 737-600 could work if the price is low. So why not?

                          So, IHMO, I expect the 777-200F to come first.
                          Keep in mind that the 737 in P3D was released as -800/-900, -600/-700, freighter, and BBJ. In MSFS, it was released on a per-airframe basis, so -600, -700, -800, and -900. As you note, in P3D, they released it as -200LR/F, -300ER, and -200ER, which is already on a per-airframe basis, as was the 747, which was released as the -400 and -8. Short of the -200LR/F being broken down as separate variants, I'm not sure how much different it could already be, unlike the 737.
                          Captain Kevin

                          Kevin Yang

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                            #21
                            ERRRRR, which one would that be?
                            Jude Bradley
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                            • rsrandazzo
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                              The first one, Jude. - RSR :-p

                            #22
                            Well, as my latest a/c poll would suggest, the wish list is split evenly between the -200ER and -300ER.

                            For me I'd like the -200ER first so as to fly KLAX to NTAA properly in the Air France livery as AFR76.
                            Mark Guinto
                            KSAN KNKX 馃洬

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                              #23
                              I'd like the 300ER and Freighter but depending on how they're released and the price, if I can only get one it's the 300ER. Not really interested on the 200.
                              Jared van der Berg

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                                #24
                                Hoping for the 300ER first!
                                Damian Newell

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                                  #25
                                  I'm getting the first one first.
                                  Justin Thomas

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                                    #26
                                    The -200ER is just so beautiful with the RR Trents. The 777F for visits to PANC/KMEM. The -300ER is the most commonly used today. The -200LR for exotic Qatari/Delta flights. The -200 in Cathay colours for nostalgia. The -300 for intra-asia high density routes. Looks like it will have to be everything. The 777 is much too perfect...
                                    Thomas Allensworth,
                                    KCRQ
                                    Carlsbad
                                    Cessna 414AW and PMDG enjoyer

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                                      #27
                                      777F was for me the best! I used to fly it a bit, but I lost the interest back in the P3D time with very boring sceneries, flat airports, etc no matter what 777 version PMDG will release , it will be fun doing approaches and take off with RR "cojones" sorry for the bad word; but it is what it is, Lots of Power. I am interested now more in 773ER
                                      Rolando Olmo

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                                        #28
                                        Originally posted by ThomasALW View Post
                                        The -200ER is just so beautiful with the RR Trents. The 777F for visits to PANC/KMEM. The -300ER is the most commonly used today. The -200LR for exotic Qatari/Delta flights. The -200 in Cathay colours for nostalgia. The -300 for intra-asia high density routes. Looks like it will have to be everything. The 777 is much too perfect...
                                        Sadly I think Delta got rid of their 777 fleet.
                                        Jac Cottam

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                                          #29
                                          Originally posted by JacCottam View Post
                                          Sadly I think Delta got rid of their 777 fleet.
                                          Yes, they got rid of them, as they only had 18 of them, compared to 28 A350s with another 16 more coming in. Even then, it was 8 -200ERs and 10 -200LRs.
                                          Captain Kevin

                                          Kevin Yang

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                                            #30
                                            Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                                            Yes, they got rid of them, as they only had 18 of them, compared to 28 A350s with another 16 more coming in. Even then, it was 8 -200ERs and 10 -200LRs.
                                            That reminds me of a good hangar story. When I was working on my MBA, I read a case study about Boeing and their relationship with Delta whom up to then had a pure Boeing fleet. Boeing in their infinite ability to not understand customers reassigned their representative at Delta. The rep had been at Delta for years and had built many business and personal relationships within the company, but Boeing wanted their "top" salesman to go to Europe for the competition with the then young Airbus. As soon as Boeing pulled their rep out of Delta, Delta started buying Airbuses. Great story.
                                            Dan Downs KCRP
                                            i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 3080Ti

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