PMDG 767

[CDrive]

The A310 from Inibuilds is very good and that's the least we can say... and I wonder if it could give Mr. Randazzo the desire to make a B767 😀

[StachM]

Well apparently a 757 is in the works, and that would be getting very close to a 767 one way or another.

[Kevin Hall]

Well apparently a 757 is in the works, and that would be getting very close to a 767 one way or another.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. In his latest online interview RSR said rumours of a 757 were incorrect.

[StachM]

I wouldn't get your hopes up. In his latest online interview RSR said rumours of a 757 were incorrect.

Well that's a bummer, looks like our only hopes for decent 757 rest on Level-D then... 🤣

[EasternT3]

I wouldn't get your hopes up. In his latest online interview RSR said rumours of a 757 were incorrect.

IIRC, it was more, the next aircraft hasn't been 100% decided internally, the 757 was just a tease.

IMO I think if PMDG stayed with Boeing's I would vote for a 767, Just Flight has the 757, QW has the 787 (if its still in development), yes I know neither will be PMDG level but I can't remember when the last decent 767 for the MS/LM side of flight sim.

[Kevin Hall]

That would be the LevelD 767. Probably the best 767 on any platform but graphically very dated now.

[aviator268]

Yeah I would love it if they would do a 757 and a 767.

I am not for the bashing of any company as they all have their reason for doing what they do. If PMDG decides to do either of the two it will be well received by the community.

[AlexanderWurz]

I'd love so much to have a good in depth 767 for MSFS - the last good one was the Level-D I had in FSX.....which I do not fly anymore

[CDrive]

The initial release of the Level-D 767 was for FS2004.
Just like the PMDG 747 (QOTS1) for FS2004 which was released for FSX later. I still have the DVDs in the back of a cupboard lol.

[Dr_Eddie]

You'd be surprised how good it still looks and handles. The big downside is the lack of memory that FSX can handle limits your flights to short ones. I still fly this bird regularly, and it is still excellent.

[aseinsha]

In its current state the inibuilds a310 doesn't have any failures and there is no cargo version, PMDG planes have failures and usually come with cargo versions. I will happily buy a PMDG 767.

[VBHB]

787 is more likely...

[Swezam]

How about we let PMDG finish what they have promised first before we start dreaming of future products. What’s on the line will take long enough.

[CCOBB2 RNAV]

This guy gets it lol

[AlphaASierra]

Hi all,

In my opinion, to finish the current lineup, the DC-3 is necessary...

DC-3
DC-6

B737NG
B744 & 8
B777

Then : 737MAX & 787

[jsmarko3]

Second the motion for a PMDG DC-3.

I'm no expert on Robert's Rules of Order, but I think RSR is now bound to deliver one because the motion carries and his name is also Robert.

[ThomasALW]

Hi all,

In my opinion, to finish the current lineup, the DC-3 is necessary...

Flyin' Ace- There is a good and free DC-3 for your enjoyment in your MSFS hangar now. Just waiting on you to try it out

[AlphaASierra]

Flyin' Ace- There is a good and free DC-3 for your enjoyment in your MSFS hangar now. Just waiting on you to try it out

I know, but not at the PMDG level

[rquick]

The flightsim community's shocking disregard for the 727 is something that will be pondered and lamented for generations. The backbone of the aviation industry for 30 years. Mach .85, 42,000 foot ceiling and far better looking than all peers except for the 747 and maybe the L1011.

[Kevin Hall]

It hasn't been disregarded. There were a couple of very good payware 727s including one for FSX and 32 bit P3D. The fact they never reworked the 727 for 64 bits but have had several goes at 757/767 sims says quite a lot. Maybe one day they'll do an MSFS version. When it comes to it, developers are first and foremost enthusiasts. If a dev group is enthusiastic about making a 727 then one will appear eventually.

[Bob Klemm]

Well that's a bummer, looks like our only hopes for decent 757 rest on Level-D then... 🤣

I've been trying to stir up interest in the group, but it doesn't looks as if anything will happen. I'm desperate for a good 757/767 as well. Lots of resources available. Sorry.

[Vee One]

That’s one of the reasons I have reinstalled P3D v4. I have Captain’s Sim B767 v2 (that I payed very little for), as well as PMDG’s and Quality’s Sim’s heavies.

[mortenha69]

Well, in any case the decision on what Boeing will be next is at least 12-18 months into the future in my opinion.

To survive as a software developer in this niche marked they need to keep their aircraft development cycles as far apart as they dare.

Not expecting their 777 series before spring 2023, and their 747 maybe early 2024. Their level of commitment to produce state-of-the-art, true-to-life simulations must be carefully balanced against their development cost and sales.

Anyway, I'm 53 years old, and this just adds to the excitement that PMDG will produce magnificent simulations for years to come.

I'm not in a hurry anymore.

[Boeing 25-01]

I wouldn't get your hopes up. In his latest online interview RSR said rumours of a 757 were incorrect.

Bummer, why would RSR make such a big deal about plans to model aircraft that was on his desk? I remember in a video interview he waived a 757 model around insinuating one was in the works eventually. Why the back pedal now?

[EasternT3]

From what I remember, all RSR said is the next aircraft isn't decided internally yet, so the 757 is still a possibility

[Tony Vallillo]

Well, folks, this is why I will still be flying XP11/12 for a long time! And, as they say in North Jersey, "I ain't godda problem wid dat"! If you merely have both of the major sim platforms on your computer (hardly a financial stretch!), you can have every airliner that has been mentioned above; and if not to PMDG standards, then certainly close enough to please, to say nothing of for government work. Especially these days!

[CDrive]

The reality is that even the reiteration requires a lot of work, especially in the P3D → MSFS sense. Not to mention the work of updates, to maintain their products in platform changes.
The days of DVD-burning software are over (with just one version).
I don't regret that time at all, but if we had stayed at that time PMDG would certainly have had to do the whole Boeing family and maybe even others😎

Now a quick note about the 727, as beautiful as it is (although I love them all)
it was made for "only" 20 years compared to a 767 which was over 40 years old and it's still not finished, even the 787 didn't kill it completely.

[TH454]

UPS is upgrading the 757/767 with the 787 avionics. I guess they are planning to keep them around for a while.
https://www.aviationtoday.com/2017/0...ay%20screens..

[Granite]

The flightsim community's shocking disregard for the 727 is something that will be pondered and lamented for generations. The backbone of the aviation industry for 30 years. Mach .85, 42,000 foot ceiling and far better looking than all peers except for the 747 and maybe the L1011.

Well not necessarily true rquick. There is a superb B727 pax and cargo for XPlane 11 by a payware designer. Just love it. Hope they also bring it to XPlane 12

[Bob Klemm]

UPS is upgrading the 757/767 with the 787 avionics. I guess they are planning to keep them around for a while.
https://www.aviationtoday.com/2017/0...ay%20screens..

They're being delivered with the Collins Large Display System from the factory now for FedEx and UPS.

[Yoshua]

UPS has a lot of old 767's. Line 1280 was build in 2019 and was the first in 7 years.

[Yoshua]

Just to add to my last comment. It was the first new 767 for UPS in 7 years but they also have some that are over 20 years old and I don't think the new displays came till maybe 5 or 6 years ago.

[jmarauder04]

All but cargo companies are phasing out the ageing 75/76. Along with many airlines continuing purchase of the 78, why do we have to continue to ask for archaic airplanes.

[Murf7413]

I don't know about you, but a lot of us like the "archaic airplanes"!!

[DrVenkman]

All but cargo companies are phasing out the ageing 75/76. Along with many airlines continuing purchase of the 78, why do we have to continue to ask for archaic airplanes.

Believe it not, some people actually enjoy “archaic” airplanes (witness PMDG’s DC-6, and the plethora of quality planes in the sim ranging from WWI-era biplanes to Cold War-era fighter jets). Further, some people like simulating cargo ops and the Seven Five/Seven Six airframes will continue in these roles for years to come yet. One of my best friends is a captain flying the 767 freighter for a very large cargo operator, as a matter of fact.

[jmarauder04]

Great for your friend. However, as a business tactic, I don't think an outdated jet would have much growth. While they might be utilized irl, what future would they see in a sim. Which is has more of a reach to a younger user base. Why go back in time?

[DrVenkman]

Great for your friend. However, as a business tactic, I don't think an outdated jet would have much growth. While they might be utilized irl, what future would they see in a sim. Which is has more of a reach to a younger user base. Why go back in time?

Did you read my last post for more than just the comment about my friend? There is a LOT of demand for "outdated" and "archaic" aircraft in general, and plenty of demand for planes for all eras, airports and airfields from significant periods in history, and lots of customers with money to spend.

If you don't see that, you're really not paying attention.

Also, please sign your posts before a PMDG staffer removes them.

[Mcleod97]

Great for your friend. However, as a business tactic, I don't think an outdated jet would have much growth. While they might be utilized irl, what future would they see in a sim. Which is has more of a reach to a younger user base. Why go back in time?

So, going by this, PMDG shouldn't bother with the 747-400?

[John Tavendale]

All but cargo companies are phasing out the ageing 75/76. Along with many airlines continuing purchase of the 78, why do we have to continue to ask for archaic airplanes.

What are you talking about? They're still building brand new 767F's...

[Yoshua]

He said "All BUT cargo companies"........

[John Tavendale]

Yes, but if they're still producing the airframe that hardly makes them 'archaic' And the final pax version was only 8 years ago.

[Nuno Pinto]

why do we have to continue to ask for archaic airplanes.

Because those are the fun ones. The 787 while looking nice is just... boring.

I much rather fly a 767/A310 than a 777 787 or an A350, we all have our preferences.

[Paulyg123]

The LevelD forum moderator said back in April 2020 that they had no planes for a 767 update for P3Dv5 or MSFS . So that is not an option anymore. levelD has not had an update since 2017. So don’t hold your breath. The PMDG 787 would be a huge hit I’m my opinion.