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22H2 Windows Alert!

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    22H2 Windows Alert!

    I have had ZERO issues with MSFS performance from day one. Zero. By zero I mean ZERO. No matter the plane, the scenery, the weather etc. Right before SU10 my PC updated to Windows 11 version 22H2. I loaded up my sim for a flight with the Fenix which had also been update and I thought the community was ape crap bananas. I had stutters. My stutters had stutters. My stuttering stutters stuttered while stuttering.

    No problem I thought, I will fly the trusted PMDG 737. Nope welcome to Stutter Town, County of Stutterville, the State of Stuttery.

    I rolled back Windows to the last build. Stutters gone. Something is wrong with that version with MSFS. After I did so, I did some searching online and confirmed my experience. Don't update if you are asked. It is not SU10, it is not the PMDG (Insert plane here) or Fenix, Maddog or the CRJ. It is 22H2.
    Mark "Crabby" Crabtree AAL311 | PHL
    I7-9700KF | 2070 Super | Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo | MFG Crosswind


    #2
    Known issue with current Nvidia drivers and 22H2. Nvidia is working on a fix.

    This affects games other than MSFS, too.
    Tom Clarkson

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      #3
      In the meantime, if you disable the nvidia overlay, it should be good to go again.
      Regards, Lorenzo Davila

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      • Crabby
        Crabby commented
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        Not using Nvidia overlay. I do a deep driver removal and install using Nvidia Clean

      #4
      From an NVIDIA engineer on reddit:

      This issue is addressed with GeForce Experience 3.26 BETA. This update can be downloaded from the URL below:

      https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/beta/

      Please download the update and share if the performance issues that were introduced after updating to Windows 11 22H2 are resolved for you.
      Last edited by HDR10; 23Sep2022, 19:53.
      Tom Clarkson

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        #5
        HA! Thanks Crabby and everyone else for this thread... I've been driving myself bonkers for a week and some change trying to figure out why my sim kept freezing after installing PXST? + RealTraffic + AIG's Traffic Manager... The problem was 2 fold - 1st, I had completely forgotten at some point in time i enabled "Pause at top of descent" - which to my own stupidity, I was thinking the "freeze" was caused by PXST... Once I figured that little nugget out (big props to PMDG if we can add some sort of visual cue that the sim is paused at top of descent) i then began to experience crashes...

        I too have recently installed SU10 along w/ 11H2 and will either roll back the H2 update, try the beta for GeForce Experience referenced above, or simply wait for the next nvidia drivers...

        Side note: Flying the 738 w/ real time traffic i can see outside my window while listening to LiveATC or my Transceiver is 10000% awesome... Even if I'm inside "Stutter Town, Stuttery" 🤣

        Jesse Rushlow

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          #6
          I have Windows 11 22H2 installed since the day of public release and have had no problems at all, so it certainly doesn't affect everyone. Every flight so far has been smooth and stable for me. Not denying that there's something wrong with it as I have also seen the many reports but sounds more like a settings problem for some folks with 22H2 rather than 22H2 itself. Still using the latest public release GeForce Experience 3.25.1.27 [not the BETA as suggested] and the latest driver 516.94 [from 9th August 2022]. Only difference, perhaps, is that when I installed 22H2, I clean installed it and then made sure everything in Windows Update and MS Store is fully up to date.
          Ashleigh Turner

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            #7
            I had some strange stutter’s myself on MSFS post update I thought nothing of turned my settings down they happened when I was using DLSS I run a Ryzen 9 4900HS and a 2060 Max Q on an Rog G15 will check my windows version and update y’all
            Cameron Richards

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              #8
              Found this article on Ars Techica today that mentions the issue with Nvidia and 22H2

              Jesse Rushlow

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              • DDowns
                DDowns commented
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                Crabby the NVidia Clean Install method doesn't remove any bloat, it just resets the NVidia Control Panel settings to default. I don't reset my settings, even after doing a DDU clean up in windows safe mode.

              • Crabby
                Crabby commented
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                Bloat may not be the correct term. However, it removes a lot of stuff that is not needed, and it is far more than just the control panel. Nvidia Clean is a separate program not a setting during the install of drivers. It takes the driver package from Nvidia, separates the components and let's you select what to install or not. https://www.techpowerup.com/download...-nvcleanstall/ After using the program, you get a whole new custom driver package with only the items you selected built for you.

              • Crabby
                Crabby commented
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                An example of something removed using Nvidia Clean. My system for simming is a desktop. I do not need/want the notebook stuff installed.

              #9
              Nvidia Clean screenshots showing options to add or remove from the driver package (not all options are show, there is a whole page before this)
              Also a screen showing the difference is size of the created installer versus the original Nvidia installer.
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              Mark "Crabby" Crabtree AAL311 | PHL
              I7-9700KF | 2070 Super | Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo | MFG Crosswind

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                #10
                Having checked my windows version I’m on 21H2 and my game is stuttering
                Cameron Richards

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                  #11
                  Feels like deja vu of people blaming GSX Pro for CTDs when it was a MSFS issue.

                  This is not a Windows 22H2 issue, but an Nvidia driver issue. Nonetheless, people will experience performance issues as a result of upgrading to 22H2. Just need to blame the right people.

                  In any case, Nvidia said the fix should be out (in stable, non-beta form) within the week.
                  Fahad Al Riyami
                  PMDG 737-800 for MSFS, 737NGX, 737NGXu, 747 (+ -8), 777 (+ -300ER). MSFS-exclusive, Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo.

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                  • Crabby
                    Crabby commented
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                    That could be, I don't care. I installed 2H22 and had problems, reverted and back to normal. Will try again when the Nvidia drivers are released.

                  #12
                  Whetever the underlying reason, turning off the Overlay in the Geforce settings menu has made a difference like night and day for me, from bad stutters and lag one moment to completely smooth performance the next. I'd been on 22H2 for a while via Insider, since around the same time as I first joined the SU10 beta, so i'd assumed SU10 was to blame. I guess it wasn't....
                  Itamar Mazor

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                    #13
                    Looks like the Nvidia driver update is out. Here's a link to the EVGA version: EVGA - Download Center. Here's the reference version selection page: Official Drivers | NVIDIA

                    From the notes: "This new Game Ready Driver provides the best day-0 gaming experience for Overwatch 2. In addition, this new Game Ready Driver offers support for the latest releases and updates including the addition of NVIDIA DLSS technology to Microsoft Flight Simulator."​
                    Last edited by FlyingFed; 28Sep2022, 00:59.
                    Herman Ross
                    ATP-ASMEL, G-1159; Comm-ASES; CFI-ASMEI

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                      #14
                      As of today, 9/28 everything has been fixed.

                      Jeff Soule

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