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[29JUL22] PMDG 737-600 is released! (and some other news bits, too!)

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    #61
    Great job, great price! outstanding as usual.

    Roilen Palmer

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      #62
      Good job. Great flight model and delivered when you said it would be. That makes such a difference to the enjoyment.

      Had a flight this morning out of EHAM up to FL380. The vertical climb seems a lot easier than the 700? Has the vertical model changed this?
      Charlie Goulding

      I9-9900K Clocked to 5.0GHZ, KRAKEN Water Cooled, NVIDIA RTX3080 TI, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Dual Channel Memory, 2 M2 500GB SSD's, AUROS Z390 Mother Board, 1 x Samsung 860 QVO 2TB Solid State Drive (up to 550MB/s R | 520MB/s W) in a NZKT Frame.

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        #63
        Originally posted by chasgoulding View Post
        Good job. Great flight model and delivered when you said it would be. That makes such a difference to the enjoyment.

        Had a flight this morning out of EHAM up to FL380. The vertical climb seems a lot easier than the 700? Has the vertical model changed this?
        The 600 is calls a pocket rocket for a reason As It is smaller and has the same engines as the rest of the 737 it has a increased climb rate.
        Chris Makris (Olympic260)
        PMDG Technical Support
        http://www.pmdg.com

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        • chasgoulding
          chasgoulding commented
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          Chris, thanks, but it seems to climb smoother and easier. Doesn’t feel like just being a rocket, I’ll try the 700 and see if it’s just me.

        #64
        Appreciate the update on the 737-700 going to marketplace "in days" , as someone else asked, will the -600 be joining it at the same time or do we need to wait further for the 600 to make it's way to the marketplace as well?

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          #65
          the parking brake, not work i hold button 20 sekund but. nothing happend.

          Best Regards Petter
          Petter Storvik

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            #66
            Does That Mean it will Come to XBOX?

            Thanks Nick

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            • rsrandazzo
              rsrandazzo commented
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              Nick- When any of our products come to XBox is unfortunately not up to us. There is a problem on the Xbox platform running products that are created using C++/WASM (which all PMDG products are) and MS/Asobo discovered this with the release of our DC-6. They reported that they are working on a fix, but they are unable to provide any updates on when such a fix might actually make it to the platform. I suspect this silence indicates that it will be a long wait. - RSR

            #67
            Originally posted by petterws View Post
            the parking brake, not work i hold button 20 sekund but. nothing happend.

            Best Regards Petter
            Hold down foot pedals apply parking brake.
            Charlie Goulding

            I9-9900K Clocked to 5.0GHZ, KRAKEN Water Cooled, NVIDIA RTX3080 TI, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Dual Channel Memory, 2 M2 500GB SSD's, AUROS Z390 Mother Board, 1 x Samsung 860 QVO 2TB Solid State Drive (up to 550MB/s R | 520MB/s W) in a NZKT Frame.

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              #68
              Main cargo door does not open with the new update for the 700. Was just on a group flight and everyone had the same issue.
              Rudy Fattal

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              • rsrandazzo
                rsrandazzo commented
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                Rude- We shall lock Jason in there and leave him until it is fixed. :-) - RSR

              #69
              Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post

              With this update we have corrected some problems with the brake pedal position module that caused improper behavior when setting/releasing parking brakes and when disengaging the autobrake using brake pressure as is most commonly done in the real world. This is going to trip up a lot of users- so here is what you need to know:
              • To set the parking brake, you must FIRST apply full brake then set the parking brake latch on the pedestal. The red light will illuminate, and the latch will be locked in place.
              • To release the parking brake, you must apply full brake pressure.
              In the past, simply clicking the parking brake latch would release the parking brakes, but that is not correct behavior and we have now fixed this. The only way to release the parking brake is to get full brake application until the spring latch mechanism releases the parking brake latch and it pops back to it's stowed position. If you use rudder pedals with toe brakes this will provide a satisfying, proper simulation of the brake release. If you use a keyboard or button for your brakes, be sure to hold it for a few seconds as brake pressure ramps up slowly. A simple tap of the button won't work- you gotta hold it until full pressure is applied.

              On the autobrake release side, to use the brake pedals to release the autobrake after it has engaged, simply apply pressure slowly on the brakes until you exceed the amount of braking being applied by the autobrake. The brake pressure sensors will pick this up and send the trip-off command to the autobrake control module, thus releasing the autobrake for you.

              (If you guys see others struggling with the change in brake behavior- please point them here or copy this notice to them? We appreciate it. :-)
              This is great. I always had trouble setting the brakes, because naturally I would try to set it like the real thing. I think that says something about the immersion level of your product.


              Capt. Jason Wannamaker - ATPL B737
              https://www.twitch.tv/captainbandages/

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                #70
                So with regards to RNP RF legs does this mean we are just waiting on navigraph or does PMDG still have to do more work behind the scenes ?
                Jordan Collins

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                • tomas@knaifl.cz
                  [email protected] commented
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                  we must still wait until pmdg will introduce new/updated format for sid/stars - when thiss will be done, navigraph can provide data.

                  current pmdg sid/star format does not support the modern stuff.

                • rsrandazzo
                  rsrandazzo commented
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                  Jordan- We have two steps pending now that lateral flight path is done. The first step is to convert the airplane from the 20 year old data format we are using (that doesn't include RF data types) to the new format. This has already been accomplished in the 737 but we haven't given it to testers yet as we are still refining it. Completion of this step will only be noticeable when you update the data as you'll have a different database than traditionally for PMDG products. Functionality will remain the same. Once that step is done, we then have to add the new RF data types to the FMS, which will then allow the FMS to draw the legs using the data from Navigraph rather than creating them via computational interpretation as we do currently. Which brings me to my point: The airplane will fly those procedures currently- but it does so with a bit of internal black magic. We have done that since before most of the sim world had ever heard of an RF leg. ;-) - RSR

                #71
                Another great job team way to go 👍🏻👍🏻
                Angus Rowlands 9700K RTX 2080 windows 11 home 32GB Ram

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                  #72
                  Just bought, downloaded, and tried to fly from FWA to MDW...had a freeze in external view, quickly followed by a CTD as I turned inland over Lake Michigan...I STILL love this 737 without winglets (hate 'em...love the old school look much better). Also noticed a **potential** bug...I was at 18K, 320kts, maintaining a heading of 310. Instead, the airplane did not change heading when I turned the heading autopilot knob from 310 to 320 degrees...plane stayed straight and level and visually, the yokes were canted off in a direction like they were turning to the right...it was odd looking.

                  Again....despite my quick flight and the potential of a few bugs, I LIKE this baby Boeing!!!!

                  Kent Valentine

                  ** Qualifier - I have NOT RT*M, so it could be operator error. **

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                  • Ephedrin
                    Ephedrin commented
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                    As you say it was your first flight after install: did you load the plane, quit the sim and restarted it? It‘s required ir all kind of weird things may happen.

                  #73
                  Flying my 600 all around central and northern Manitoba moving tanker crews, AMEs, parts, and ground firefighters to various locations with shorter fields as needed for forest fire suppression. .
                  Really a great PMDG creation. Almost as cool as flying the 215......
                  Dave
                  Dave Wilton

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                    #74
                    Thank you Robert Just loaded the 600 and flew it very nice. Great price. I am amazed you can turn out such great addon's for the price, I expected to pay much more for the Quality that yu get in PMDG's products. I will only fly a PMDG Product since I discovered them back in 2005. Thank you and your team for your hard work and excellent aircraft, Keep up the good work.

                    Ken Hand
                    Ken Hand
                    AMD 3900X, EVGA RTX 380 XC, X570 wifi, 128GB ram.

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                      #75
                      So looking forward a detailed cabin) When we could see it?) Will there be an older version, or only sky interior?

                      Vitaly Diagilev
                      Last edited by Thomasukdd; 31Jul2022, 02:58.

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                      • cpalmer41
                        cpalmer41 commented
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                        Im also hoping they make the cabin to where we can open the cockpit door and walking into the cabin. Right now you can only get in the cabin from the outside view with the drone.

                        Phillip Palmer

                      • Want2BFlyin
                        Want2BFlyin commented
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                        @cpalmer41

                        To my knowledge, this has never been done before on a PMDG aircraft. However, I believe that Robert has mentioned that they are looking into doing this for the 737 for MSFS.

                      • cpalmer41
                        cpalmer41 commented
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                        Want2BFlyin I don't think it has, I've just gotten spoiled by that in the Fenix. Hoping PMDG can pull it off as well but you never know, it could be a complete redo of the plane or something major and in that case I wouldn't blame them if they didn't do it.

                      #76
                      Congratulations on the pricing, even if it's may due to the lack of BBJ or Freighter variants, it's a good price. Hope you follow the same mentality with the -800 since the pricing on the -700 at it's launch was quite a huge disappointment. Good job!
                      Vitor C. K.

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                        #77
                        I like the new lateral flight director cues, very realistic. Also the new parking brake logic. However this only works with the mouse. Can an assignable key combination be added to lift the parking brake lever? It would be nice to be able to set the parking brake without looking down at the pedestal.

                        Could the code be made to use the existing toggle parking brake command?

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                          #78
                          Originally posted by Kevin Hall View Post
                          I like the new lateral flight director cues, very realistic. Also the new parking brake logic. However this only works with the mouse. Can an assignable key combination be added to lift the parking brake lever? It would be nice to be able to set the parking brake without looking down at the pedestal.

                          Could the code be made to use the existing toggle parking brake command?
                          It works without a mouse

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                            #79
                            Dear Pilots and Programmers,
                            which liveries are included in the 737-800 version? Will the 800 also be priced different than announced (Like the 600), because I do not know if I can afford it anymore if the price goes up.

                            Luis Moreno

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                              #80
                              Originally posted by Pilot Luis View Post
                              Dear Pilots and Programmers,
                              which liveries are included in the 737-800 version? Will the 800 also be priced different than announced (Like the 600), because I do not know if I can afford it anymore if the price goes up.

                              Luis Moreno
                              You should anticipate the price of the -800 to be about the same as the -700. Source: https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...ow-to-purchase
                              Alex Pugh

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                                #81
                                Originally posted by Kevin Hall View Post
                                I like the new lateral flight director cues, very realistic. Also the new parking brake logic. However this only works with the mouse. Can an assignable key combination be added to lift the parking brake lever? It would be nice to be able to set the parking brake without looking down at the pedestal.

                                Could the code be made to use the existing toggle parking brake command?
                                That’s exactly how I’m doing it and have been doing it since the 737 came out. However, with the current parking brake logic, there are two significant changes to how I’ve been doing things: first, instead of just using pressing a TOGGLE PARKING BRAKE keybind, you MUST activate the brakes for several seconds first, either through your keyboard BRAKES command or with rudder pedal toe brakes, then press your TOGGLE PARKING BREAK key.

                                The second change I had to make was to modify that TOGGLE PARKING BRAKE keybind to activate “On Release” instead of “On Press.”
                                Herb Schaltegger - Father, husband, lawyer, engineer & getting too old for this $#!t. Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Ball!TM.

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                                  #82
                                  Originally posted by DrVenkman View Post

                                  That’s exactly how I’m doing it and have been doing it since the 737 came out. However, with the current parking brake logic, there are two significant changes to how I’ve been doing things: first, instead of just using pressing a TOGGLE PARKING BRAKE keybind, you MUST activate the brakes for several seconds first, either through your keyboard BRAKES command or with rudder pedal toe brakes, then press your TOGGLE PARKING BREAK key.

                                  The second change I had to make was to modify that TOGGLE PARKING BRAKE keybind to activate “On Release” instead of “On Press.”
                                  Hi Herb, thanks for that info. I was trying it the way you describe without success but didn't think of changing the activation method. I'll try activate on release next flight. Its good to know it can be made to work.
                                  Last edited by Kevin Hall; 31Jul2022, 16:39.

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                                    #83
                                    Has something fundamentally changed from the sound design for the 700? The engines sounds very different (more deep rumble) and the outside sounds from them are almost gone. Another expample is the flap moving sounds, very different.

                                    Chris Blair

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                                    • rsrandazzo
                                      rsrandazzo commented
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                                      Chris- We improved the base channel of various sounds but I think that was back in build 3.00.0025. I don't think the 700 got more than a bit of minor tweaking in sound channels this time around. - RSR

                                    #84
                                    Of Course, another great product. Thanks so much for all the work. Really enjoying the 600 as well as the updates for the 700.

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                                      #85
                                      Can't pay with my credit card, I just get the message that something went wrong and I have to contact my provider.

                                      And yes, there is enough money.

                                      It's not a pity, it's just strange that it worked without any problems with the 737-700 back then.

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                                        #86
                                        Please provide a no winglet version of the -700, -800, and -900
                                        William "Bill" Williamson

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                                          #87
                                          Originally posted by MediumRareBaku View Post
                                          Please provide a no winglet version of the -700, -800, and -900
                                          https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...winglet-option
                                          Joe Colehouse

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                                            #88
                                            Originally posted by Woiperdinga View Post
                                            Can't pay with my credit card, I just get the message that something went wrong and I have to contact my provider.

                                            And yes, there is enough money.

                                            It's not a pity, it's just strange that it worked without any problems with the 737-700 back then.
                                            It could just be a glitch with their ecommerce provider. Try again in a little while. Alternatively, you could try using Paypal, and let Paypal bill your card.

                                            Andrew Jones
                                            Last edited by Avwriter; 02Aug2022, 02:48.
                                            Andrew Jones

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                                              #89
                                              Any chances for the NG series (700, 800 and 900) to get models like the series 600 without winglets? Also, do they have integrated stairs at door one?

                                              Love this baby Boeing aircraft, they're as always great PMDG standard... Thanks.

                                              Kind regards

                                              Stefan

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                                              #90
                                              Bad/disappointing decision, imo.
                                              William "Bill" Williamson

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