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    [04JUN22] PMDG 737-600 Dev Update: The Short-Body Wonder Twin of Full Sized Airliners.

    Captains,

    In keeping with my update from last weekend, I'd like to introduce you to our new Wonder Twin, the PMDG 737-600 for MSFS

    This is our third product for Microsoft Flight Simulator, and our second of four PMDG 737 Next Generation for Microsoft Flight Simulator. She happens to be a favorite of the team because she is a bit unique, highly over-powered, performs like a can-do-anything performer and will get you in and out of short, hard to reach places with poise and sports car handling.

    The bigger 737s can at times because trolly cars, but the short bodied 600 remains a thoroughbred, no matter how many of your friends you bring with you.

    Pictured here at an insecure undisclosed-unless-you-happen-to-walk-by-Atlantic Aviation at KLAS location, we find our trust 600 at the ready for another day of proving runs. The 737-600 is near and dear to my heart because she was the logical replacement for the 737-500, which joined my airline's fleet very early in my career when i was a wee young ramper still hoping to make his way to a pilot's license and happy to do any task around a brand new Boeing airliner. (You have no idea how hard one-trial learning can be when emptying the lav on a 737 when you are officially 1" too short to do so while balanced properly on your own feet.)

    PMDG_600_screenshots4.jpg


    The 500 was a workhorse of our fleet, and by all measures was popular among North American carriers, but was less-so in Europe. In much the same way, the 737-600 really didn't catch on for carriers who by the late 90s were looking for longer and higher capacity derivatives like the 800 and 900 series that are still to come in our series. But still neaerly 70 were built with many of them still happily in operation mostly in North America.

    I have always considered myself a "long body" guy who falls in love with 707-300s, DC-8-68/73s, MD-88s and 727-200s, and 757s of all variation but there is something about this squat, powerful little rocket of an airplane that I have always loved- and we think you will enjoy her immensely as a fun, no-excuses power-sled to take you off on your simming adventures.

    Fortunately, in the simming skies we don't worry as much about such things as capacity and we can let our adventures take us where they will, and this image was captured as Jason launched out on yet another test flight as we tune and tweak the behavior of the 600 so that she matches the book values just so.


    PMDG_600_screenshots1.jpg

    The PMDG 737-600 is preparing for beta testing entry and is running about 7-9 days behind our originally planned schedule, but there was already some slop in there so she may still roll out right on time in the middle of June. (Because someone will ask, the delay in the 600 does not impact the 800, they are decoupled, we just needed a bit more time for something in the 600 systems integration since I was out sick for a week.)

    Now for a few bits of fun news to give you something to look forward to as we prepare this airplane for you:

    PMDG 737-600 Release and Marketplace Release:
    We are exploring a few changes with the PMDG 737-600, one of which is rapid-entry to MS Marketplace. We are working out the logistics of how this can happen with an eye toward a rapid transition from PMDG release to MS Marketplace release for this product. We are also looking to see if we can do a concurrent release between PMDG and Marketplace- but neither of these have a clear pathway just yet. It is under exploration. Also look for some updated guidance on pricing between now and release, as we have a better scope of the finished package and what it entails- we think initial guidance on the 600 package trended a bit higher than is probably appropriate for the product scale.

    PMDG Lateral / Vertical Path Module:
    For a few years now, we have been at work conducting a full rebuild on the lateral and vertical path modeling capability for the PMDG FMS used by all of our Boeing airliners. This project has been a bit of a "ship in a storm" in that successive planned rollouts under Prepar3D got sidelined by larger market dynamics. The good news is that we are preparing to insert it into testing within the PMDG 737 for MSFS, and it will then roll out to you in the forum of a free update. This modern path modeling has been something we have been building toward for some time and it will dramatically improve the accuracy of how PMDG airliners move through the sky in a 3D pathway. It is a thing of beauty and while we thought it would be sidelined unless/until Asobo finally delivers on their promise to give us modern debugging tools, we have continued to hammer away at this because it is important- and thus far it looks like the fruit of our labor will pay off handsomely in spite of the lack of support of modern tooling.

    PMDG Autoflight Director Module:
    Concurrent with the Lateral/Vertical Path Module we have been working to build out a proper flight director roll and pitch module based upon input from some of the industries leading flight control logic engineers and our in in house mathematical wizzard. This has been under initial iteration testing and will also roll out as a free update shortly. One of the problems we have been trying to crack is "how to damp out the massively violent and unrealistic Asobo Atmospheric Shifts" without upsetting the control logic- and feel we finally cracked that nut once again based upon our in-house expertise in the use, operation and design of flight director control law.

    It is always nice to have actual engineering degrees in house so that we can crack right into code and adapt it to make the entire simulation experience nicer for you- and we have been at this exercise for nearly fifteen months. It will be nice for you to see how it fundamentally changes the character of the airplane and it's relationship to the lateral and vertical path, restrictions and the like. It is some really great stuff and it is already ready-made for the 777 and 747!

    PMDG Universal Flight Tablet:
    This beauty is humming right along. Not quite ready for prime-time, but I am betting you have it in your flight deck sooner than later. The team is working diligently to get the core functionality in place and we'll put together a nice preview of it when the time is right. (I got a stern warning about telling you too much about it last week... hence few words other than to say it is coming along really nicely with some cool features!)

    Next Update Cycle for the 737:
    We are planning another update cycle for the 737 next week. That will get handed off to testing on Monday, I expect. We are working on a few larger issues with animations and control axis inputs that aren't behaving in the manner we like. We are also re-shuffling some priorities around based upon the news that Asobo has had to push the SU10 update out into August. This has an impact on our workflow because there are a few things we needed in that SU10 update in order to clear up a couple of nuisance items, and it appears we will be waiting on those fixes- so some shuffling will be in order to keep the development workflow optimized.

    Adding New Features to 737:
    I suspect this question will come up in the thread below- so let me try to answer it here: Once the PMDG 737-600 releases, we will be updating both the 600 and 700 airplanes concurrently and individually as needed in an ongoing bases. You will not need to purchase one or the other in order to have access to any new functions that we add to the product line, as those functions will be added to the entire fleet concurrently. The PMDG Universal Flight Tablet, for example, will go into the entire fleet so you will have it no matter which airplane(s) you own. The goal is simplicity and transparency.

    PMDG's $350,000 Community Investment-to-date:
    You'll recall that back when we launched PMDG 737NGXu in November of 2019, we all thought the PMDG 737 for MSFS would a straight forward drag/drop/modify/release cycle that would take about six months. With that in mind, we offered a rare one-time special to all PMDG customers that gave 8,934 of you a $99.99 purchase credit to use toward the MSFS version of the 737 when it released. We built out our ecommerce system to make that process simple, easy and honest for all of you who participated, and as of 31MAY22, approximately 5,000 PMDG customers have redeemned nearly $350,000 in those store credits toward the purchase of a their new PMDG 737 or DC-6 for MSFS.

    Back when we made this offer, nobody could possibly have predicted that bringing the 737 into MSFS would be a true rebuild taking years to get done properly, or the impact that our incredibly difficult 737 development cycle would have on PMDG as a company. Nor could anyone have guessed the impact Covid would have on so many of you, your families, workplace, employment and personal savings. We have gotten a number of very kind, very thoughtful emails and messages from PMDG customers who were surprised to find that we stuck by our program and our promise to make sure those credits were present, on time and easy to use.

    We are proud of the work we create and we are proud of the bond that we share with all of our customers. You invested your confidence in us back in November 2019, and we are beyond pleased that your confidence in us can be repaid in such a measurable fashion.

    For those who purchased the PMDG 737NGXu in November/December 2019- you have $99.99 in credit automatically inserted to your PMDG ecommerce account. Please do feel free to use it for any PMDG product you like between now and December 31, 2024. You earned it and we hope you enjoy!

    As always thank you for your enthusiasm for our products- we happy to be hitting stride within the MSFS environment finally- and looking forward to great simming ahead for all of us!

    Please enjoy your weekend!
    Robert S. Randazzo
    PMDG Simulations
    http://www.pmdg.com



    #2
    Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
    Captains,

    PMDG Lateral / Vertical Path Module:
    For a few years now, we have been at work conducting a full rebuild on the lateral and vertical path modeling capability for the PMDG FMS used by all of our Boeing airliners. This project has been a bit of a "ship in a storm" in that successive planned rollouts under Prepar3D got sidelined by larger market dynamics. The good news is that we are preparing to insert it into testing within the PMDG 737 for MSFS, and it will then roll out to you in the forum of a free update. This modern path modeling has been something we have been building toward for some time and it will dramatically improve the accuracy of how PMDG airliners move through the sky in a 3D pathway. It is a thing of beauty and while we thought it would be sidelined unless/until Asobo finally delivers on their promise to give us modern debugging tools, we have continued to hammer away at this because it is important- and thus far it looks like the fruit of our labor will pay off handsomely in spite of the lack of support of modern tooling.

    PMDG Autoflight Director Module:
    Concurrent with the Lateral/Vertical Path Module we have been working to build out a proper flight director roll and pitch module based upon input from some of the industries leading flight control logic engineers and our in in house mathematical wizzard. This has been under initial iteration testing and will also roll out as a free update shortly. One of the problems we have been trying to crack is "how to damp out the massively violent and unrealistic Asobo Atmospheric Shifts" without upsetting the control logic- and feel we finally cracked that nut once again based upon our in-house expertise in the use, operation and design of flight director control law.

    It is always nice to have actual engineering degrees in house so that we can crack right into code and adapt it to make the entire simulation experience nicer for you- and we have been at this exercise for nearly fifteen months. It will be nice for you to see how it fundamentally changes the character of the airplane and it's relationship to the lateral and vertical path, restrictions and the like. It is some really great stuff and it is already ready-made for the 777 and 747!

    PMDG Universal Flight Tablet:
    This beauty is humming right along. Not quite ready for prime-time, but I am betting you have it in your flight deck sooner than later. The team is working diligently to get the core functionality in place and we'll put together a nice preview of it when the time is right. (I got a stern warning about telling you too much about it last week... hence few words other than to say it is coming along really nicely with some cool features!)

    Next Update Cycle for the 737:
    We are planning another update cycle for the 737 next week. That will get handed off to testing on Monday, I expect. We are working on a few larger issues with animations and control axis inputs that aren't behaving in the manner we like. We are also re-shuffling some priorities around based upon the news that Asobo has had to push the SU10 update out into August. This has an impact on our workflow because there are a few things we needed in that SU10 update in order to clear up a couple of nuisance items, and it appears we will be waiting on those fixes- so some shuffling will be in order to keep the development workflow optimized.
    This! Now, this was the post I was waiting for. This is excellent news, okay! Eager and waiting for the above-mentioned updates to drop. Thank you.
    Angelo Cosma

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    • rsrandazzo
      rsrandazzo commented
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      Angelo- Wait until you see it. It was worth the wait. It has been a monumental effort- especially without debugging tools. but it really really is coming together beautifully. - RSR

    • Stearmandriver
      Stearmandriver commented
      Editing a comment
      Amen... LNAV / VNAV / flight guidance updates! I'm sure the tablet is cool and I'll enjoy it... but these are the things I'm chomping at the bit for haha.

    #3
    This sounds fantastic.

    I find it hilarious how impatient some people have been, despite the fact that most of these things have been on the roadmap all the way prior to release.

    There are some great developers out there, but I still put PMDG at the top. The 737 is already superb, and it will only get better.
    Tom Clarkson

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      #4
      Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post

      Next Update Cycle for the 737:
      We are planning another update cycle for the 737 next week. That will get handed off to testing on Monday, I expect. We are working on a few larger issues with animations and control axis inputs that aren't behaving in the manner we like. We are also re-shuffling some priorities around based upon the news that Asobo has had to push the SU10 update out into August. This has an impact on our workflow because there are a few things we needed in that SU10 update in order to clear up a couple of nuisance items, and it appears we will be waiting on those fixes- so some shuffling will be in order to keep the development workflow optimized.
      Really hoping this is for the Xbox Controllers as well regarding the axis inputs. If so, cannot wait to finally fly this bird properly. Also excited for the updated LNAV and VNAV systems. It really looks like it is shaping up! Thanks Robert and the PMDG team!
      Sergio Gutierrez

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      • rsrandazzo
        rsrandazzo commented
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        Sergio- Getting the rudder/steering/animation stuff correctly playing is in my area of responsibility. We have some areas where our desire for realism is conflicting with Asobo's need for universality and simplicity. We are into some areas we have never had to consider before and it is taking some time and brain power. We'll get it sorted. One way or another. We always do. I have some ideas- now it is just a matter of trying to engineer some methods to help me debug them since Asobo hasn't delivered the promised debugging tools yet. I'd probably have solved this while napping six weeks ago if I had good tools. LOL - RSR

      • sergio8234
        sergio8234 commented
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        Sounds good, I am more than willing to wait a bit for now. Appreciate all the hard work you guys are doing right now! Hopefully Asobo gets those debugging tools out to you guys pronto, we all know the amazing work and progress you guys would have made already if you already had them. Keep it up!

      #5
      Good to hear bring on the -800.
      Peter Walsh.

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        #6
        Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post

        PMDG Lateral / Vertical Path Module:
        For a few years now, we have been at work conducting a full rebuild on the lateral and vertical path modeling capability for the PMDG FMS used by all of our Boeing airliners. This project has been a bit of a "ship in a storm" in that successive planned rollouts under Prepar3D got sidelined by larger market dynamics. The good news is that we are preparing to insert it into testing within the PMDG 737 for MSFS, and it will then roll out to you in the forum of a free update. This modern path modeling has been something we have been building toward for some time and it will dramatically improve the accuracy of how PMDG airliners move through the sky in a 3D pathway. It is a thing of beauty and while we thought it would be sidelined unless/until Asobo finally delivers on their promise to give us modern debugging tools, we have continued to hammer away at this because it is important- and thus far it looks like the fruit of our labor will pay off handsomely in spite of the lack of support of modern tooling.

        PMDG Autoflight Director Module:
        Concurrent with the Lateral/Vertical Path Module we have been working to build out a proper flight director roll and pitch module based upon input from some of the industries leading flight control logic engineers and our in in house mathematical wizzard. This has been under initial iteration testing and will also roll out as a free update shortly. One of the problems we have been trying to crack is "how to damp out the massively violent and unrealistic Asobo Atmospheric Shifts" without upsetting the control logic- and feel we finally cracked that nut once again based upon our in-house expertise in the use, operation and design of flight director control law.

        It is always nice to have actual engineering degrees in house so that we can crack right into code and adapt it to make the entire simulation experience nicer for you- and we have been at this exercise for nearly fifteen months. It will be nice for you to see how it fundamentally changes the character of the airplane and it's relationship to the lateral and vertical path, restrictions and the like. It is some really great stuff and it is already ready-made for the 777 and 747!
        Will the update come to P3D users whenever available?

        Thanks!
        Joan Alonso

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        • Want2BFlyin
          Want2BFlyin commented
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          I'm not sure your argument makes the point that you think it does. Every time an airline retires a fleet of aircraft, there are a group of pilots who are told "You can't fly what you used to fly anymore." The pilots have to either be trained on a completely different aircraft or find something else to do. Not to mention every airline pilot who reaches the mandatory retirement age and is told "Sorry, you can't fly anymore," or who has been laid off, or failed a medical exam. Pilots are told all the time that they can't fly anymore, and while that is certainly disappointing, they find ways to adjust.

        • jalbino59
          jalbino59 commented
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          No need for metaphorical comparisons, and those who feel disappointment are not working on any assumptions. The following is a direct quote from RSR

          "We are preparing to beta test a pretty significant update to the 747 product line for P3D users. Quite a bit of initial testing has already been accomplished, but another round is needed in order to vet changes to LNAV and the flight director control laws that have been implemented. We are hoping to get positive feedback from our testers and then the update will roll out to users via the Operations Center. I will obviously let you know it is available with an announcement."

          This is just a question of whether or not a developer can be taken at their word. That said I enjoyed the products I purchased but I'm also disappointed by this announcement and unlikely to continue my patronage.

        • simpilot787
          simpilot787 commented
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          This has nothing to do with "fleet retirements," or what pilots can or cannot fly anymore..some people are heavily invested in P3D, and PMDG had made some previous statements about releasing some updates, including the 777 cockpit improvements...not sure if PMDG's statement means that they are focused now on MSFS now, to then finish some of the P3D items...but they should clarify that and make a statement regarding P3D...

        #7
        I think i understand why you like how the -600 look, but i don't know how to explain it either haha. Can't wait for the 777s in the future hehehehe
        Vitor C. K.

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          #8
          Great news. Scandinavian's B736 was always one of my favourites. Like the Ferrari of the B737 line.
          Ross McCrindle

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            #9
            Thanks for the update, looks like some goodies are coming, I am personally looking forward to the EFB the most
            Joe Colehouse EGCC

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              #10
              Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
              We are working on a few larger issues with animations and control axis inputs that aren't behaving in the manner we like.
              Hi Rob,

              Are you referring to the changed taxi handling and NW behaviour that I mentioned in the previous update (from 3 Jun)?

              Is there any chance for a hotfix?

              Also, it is just me that can't change the distance-to-taxiline to push back with the built-in pushback tool?
              Sincerely,

              Wojtek Pietrusiewicz

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              • Hydbyr
                Hydbyr commented
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                How does the pushback tool work? I couldn't find instructions in the intro pdf (70+ yrs old - perhaps the old eyeballs are fading). The MSFS pushback request from MSFS ground ops still works.

              • Moridin
                Moridin commented
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                Hydbyr You access it via the FMC in the PMDG menus. It doesn't allow you to modify the distance at this point, even if you knew how far you needed to actually push back. I'd suggest installing Pushback Helper or Toolbar Pushback.

              #11
              Looks like she'd be great fun for those shorter field ops! Thanks for the wider update too in relation to community investment. EFB progress and the rest


              Luke Carter | Flight Sim Content Creator & PPL Student Pilot
              youtube.com/britishavgeek

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                #12
                Thanks for the update! I find it hard to believe sometimes how far we've come. Looking forward to the -800, 777F and 400F!
                Daniel Glover

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                  #13
                  rsrandazzo ...Funny that the Janet in the background is 273RH
                  I painted 273RH in P3d a while back and will be bringing her to MSFS on release.

                  Here you see her parked at Area 51 with another "air" craft in the background undergoing some undisclosed testing. 🤔

                  2vQZdm.png

                  I have to admit that of all of the 737 family...I've enjoyed flying (and painting) "Stubby" the best. She is just sooooo.....STUBBY LOL.

                  Regards, Steve Dra
                  Click here to download my P3D, FSX, 2004 paints at Avsim
                  Get my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here

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                    #14
                    She's so cute! Sounds like there's some nice other nice 'little' updates to look forward to as well, thanks Rob!
                    Rob Crawshaw
                    📺 Flight Sim Content Creator | youtube.com/bobbyfuzzy

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                      #15
                      Originally posted by Ross63 View Post
                      Great news. Scandinavian's B736 was always one of my favourites. Like the Ferrari of the B737 line.
                      She will be well-represented I'm very sure (This is a P3d version I'll be adding to the MSFS fleet LN-RRX)

                      vMciNG.png
                      Regards, Steve Dra
                      Click here to download my P3D, FSX, 2004 paints at Avsim
                      Get my paints for MSFS planes at flightsim.to here

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                        #16
                        Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post
                        Is that a static at the right or....

                        You know, I loved the -600 in P3D, taking off light on a short trip and hitting the SID climb limit just as I was reporting my passing altitude to ATC Certainly was a little "pocket rocket"! With the ability to pick and choose variants in the MSFS release/sales model, I wasn't sure I was going to bother with it this time round and just go for the -700/-800 variants - but now I'm back hanging off the fence onto the side of purchasing again...!

                        Good to finally hear a hugely positive paragraph or two on the new Modules also after so long - looking forward to the next few months as all of these drop into our sims!

                        Trevor Hannant

                        CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900K CPU @ 3.70GHz
                        GPU: Nvidia GTX960
                        RAM: 32Gb

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                          #17
                          Aer Lingus had 20 737-500's in the fleet at one time. Quite a large number considering the overall size of the fleet.
                          Jude Bradley
                          System specs: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, i9-9900KF Gigabyte Z390, RTX-2070, 32GB RAM Prepar3D V5 X-Plane 11.50 Beta tester for MS2020
                          http://downloads.pmdg.com/forum/Signatures/PMDG_Banner_777_Pilot.jpg

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                          • Steve Dra
                            Steve Dra commented
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                            And even though they would be fictional...with over 700 paints for the -700 (quite a fitting number, hehe) at flightsim.to, I'm positive Aer Lingus will be painted and ready for the 600 shortly after release. 3rd party painters have really taken to this airframe and I don't think we'll want for any livery when she's been out for a bit.

                          #18
                          -800 is one step closer to me
                          Michael Dong
                          ​​

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                            #19
                            I still use the 737NGX in P3Dv4.5HF2 (I do not yet have Microsoft Flight Simulator installed), and the 600 has always been my favourite version of the aircraft. I can get it in and out of more airports than the rest, and the short fuselage and (relatively) large wing make it look very sexy!
                            Christopher Low

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                              #20
                              Thanks for the very meaty dev update, Capt. Rob. While you can’t please everyone, I think most of the community appreciates the transparency and regularity of communications you have been striving to deliver.

                              Originally posted by Steve Dra View Post
                              rsrandazzo ...Funny that the Janet in the background is 273RH
                              I have to admit that of all of the 737 family...I've enjoyed flying (and painting) "Stubby" the best. She is just sooooo.....STUBBY LOL.
                              I keep saying I’m probably not going to buy the -600, but those profile views give it proportions that remind me of being a kid in the 70’s and taking summer trips in little -200’s out of Knoxville with Piedmont, Delta, United and probably others I don’t remember. Hang a couple of JT8D’s under each wing and voila, lol.



                              Herb Schaltegger - Father, husband, lawyer, engineer & getting too old for this $#!t. Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Ball!TM.

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                              • Steve Dra
                                Steve Dra commented
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                                Oooooooh.....Piedmont! I flew on them a few times and loved the livery. If you want the best one out there for the 737....look here. https://flightsim.to/file/32979/737-...ictional-dirty I love all his liveries...and EXCELLENT painter!

                              • DrVenkman
                                DrVenkman commented
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                                I actually grabbed that livery a week or so ago but haven’t flown with it again. I intend to recreate one of the old routes I rode on as a kid - probably a hop from KLGA to Washington Dulles and then down to Knoxville (KTYS) after a 25 minute layover. Ah, the days before deregulation, before hubs took over everything and people actually put on pants to fly, lol.

                              • Tony Vallillo
                                Tony Vallillo commented
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                                This one actually looks a lot like the length of the rare, original 737-100's of Lufthansa.

                              #21
                              We are not currently planning any updates for P3D. Our roadmap for development is currently focused on the getting the 737 development for MSFS completed. Further evaluations will be made at that time. - RS
                              Glad to see the promised cockpit and LNAV 777 update for P3D was a lie, thanks for being so transparent RSR. Stay classy PMDG.

                              We are hoping that by the time we are finished with the 777 cockpit model overhaul (late 2021) that we'll have another update or possibly two from Lockheed that will really allow us to treat that part of the airplane properly as we have been able to do with the outsides.


                              - Grant Med
                              Grant Med

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                                #22
                                Originally posted by grantcrackers18 View Post

                                Glad to see the promised cockpit and LNAV 777 update for P3D was a lie, thanks for being so transparent RSR. Stay classy PMDG.





                                - Grant Med
                                Of course they are on the cash cow at the moment I will get the credit I am due on the 800 and they are not getting another penny hate liars
                                Duarte Vieira

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                                  #23
                                  THIS day, we still have an active development agenda in P3D and developers working within the platform daily.
                                  The 777 is right back at the top of the update cycle for us again, and you can anticipate updates across the entire product range now, bringing all three products new LNAV, new Navdata processes, updated VCs for the 777 and the 747 and much much more.
                                  Very happy to see PMDG products in MSFS but would have appreciated a bit of transparency back then instead of just typing random words to please the current audience, that too for a product that costs $77.72.

                                  Joost Christiaan
                                  Last edited by Numark; 04Jun2022, 16:50.

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                                  • mglan80
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                                    “That wasn’t a promise”, “currently task saturated,” “business needs change,” yada, yada, yada. Always buy a product based on current content. If it ain’t there at time of purchase then I don’t believe it’s coming no matter who says it.

                                  #24
                                  Great news! especially the rapid entry to MS Marketplace, but may I ask you kindly to reconsider the decision of not having a non winglet -700?, it doesn't matter if it comes late, I understand that it needs to be done properly and will take time and resources, I get it, I read the post but we kinda need that variant too
                                  Take as long as you need, set it to the lowest priority but please reconsider that decision and bring a non winglet -700 to the family
                                  Thanks in advance!
                                  Gonzalo Yagci 👨‍✈️

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                                    #25
                                    Glad to see things coming along so nicely Robert. What I am really excited for is the 777, can’t wait to have her in my hands!
                                    Loving the Precision,
                                    Khbin Rjozheta Schruncm

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                                      #26
                                      Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post

                                      PMDG Lateral / Vertical Path Module:
                                      For a few years now, we have been at work conducting a full rebuild on the lateral and vertical path modeling capability for the PMDG FMS used by all of our Boeing airliners. This project has been a bit of a "ship in a storm" in that successive planned rollouts under Prepar3D got sidelined by larger market dynamics. The good news is that we are preparing to insert it into testing within the PMDG 737 for MSFS, and it will then roll out to you in the forum of a free update. This modern path modeling has been something we have been building toward for some time and it will dramatically improve the accuracy of how PMDG airliners move through the sky in a 3D pathway. It is a thing of beauty and while we thought it would be sidelined unless/until Asobo finally delivers on their promise to give us modern debugging tools, we have continued to hammer away at this because it is important- and thus far it looks like the fruit of our labor will pay off handsomely in spite of the lack of support of modern tooling.

                                      PMDG Autoflight Director Module:
                                      Concurrent with the Lateral/Vertical Path Module we have been working to build out a proper flight director roll and pitch module based upon input from some of the industries leading flight control logic engineers and our in in house mathematical wizzard. This has been under initial iteration testing and will also roll out as a free update shortly. One of the problems we have been trying to crack is "how to damp out the massively violent and unrealistic Asobo Atmospheric Shifts" without upsetting the control logic- and feel we finally cracked that nut once again based upon our in-house expertise in the use, operation and design of flight director control law.

                                      It is always nice to have actual engineering degrees in house so that we can crack right into code and adapt it to make the entire simulation experience nicer for you- and we have been at this exercise for nearly fifteen months. It will be nice for you to see how it fundamentally changes the character of the airplane and it's relationship to the lateral and vertical path, restrictions and the like. It is some really great stuff and it is already ready-made for the 777 and 747!
                                      Super excited for these !!

                                      Alshir A

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                                        #27
                                        Are there any plans to update the tiller to use the new-ish nose wheel steering axis in MSFS?
                                        Mark Chen

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                                          #28
                                          I quickly saw DC-8-73 & B727-200 & got really excited. Oh well, can’t wait for this one
                                          Robert J. Schumacher - KIAD

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                                            #29
                                            Looking forward to seeing the Westjet version!
                                            Sean Harvey
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                                            • Steve Dra
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                                              Pretty confident you'll see it.
                                              Steve Drabek
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                                            #30
                                            Good information, keep up the communication much appreciated.
                                            Last edited by Craig Hustadt; 04Jun2022, 21:05.

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