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[12NOV21] A Couple of Raw, Unedited Preview Images for 737 Lovers - To Start Your Weekend.

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    [12NOV21] A Couple of Raw, Unedited Preview Images for 737 Lovers - To Start Your Weekend.


    One of the things that I struggle with when creating previews of our work, is that I look at it for hundreds of hours each month- and from my vantage point it is hard often hard to say "oh- they would enjoy seeing *this*" or "wow- they will appreciate the quality of *that*." It is a bit like enjoying the finest cut of steak for dinner every night... after a while you lose your appreciation for just how good it is, because it is "just dinner."

    This reminds me of how I feel when we take the DC-3 to airshows, or have it serve as the backdrop for a movie or TV show or charitable event. After spending ten years restoring/maintaining/flying the airplane, I find it hard to see the machine through the eyes of someone who hasn't viewed it before. Instead of taking in the magnificence of the machine I see only the minor flaws, dings, scratches and drips, bug splatters and fingerprints.

    Recently, while talking to a fellow aviator about this affliction, he observed that "Michaelangelo probably hated that bloody chapel ceiling as well, but that doesn't mean it isn't beautiful."

    And that might indeed be a lesson.

    All of us at PMDG have been looking at our upcoming 737 release for so long that it rarely crosses our mind just how fantastically the product is coming together. We are so focused on where we know the product will be upon completion, that we rarely take the time to step back and say "hey- lets show this to our customers so they can see how cool this is going to be when finished!"

    In fact, since most of us on the team have been doing this for a few decades, it is often hard for us to shake off the hesitancy to show work-in-progress. We have a very high standard for ourselves as has been shown in our previous products across multiple platforms and we all much prefer to show you a product when we have finished buffing out the imperfections.

    I was working on some aspects of the equations that drive the flight control animations today, and since we still don't have modern coding/debugging tools that can be used with MSFS, I have Prepar3D v5 running in one quadrant of my screen (with modern debugging tools, thank you very much) and I have MSFS (with which I can only use the same coding/debugging techniques we used back in 1992...) and I am editing code in one simulator, testing, verifying behavior then copying to the other and checking that the results appear to match, etc etc.... And in the midst of doing this I had a moment in which my focus shifted outward from my own work- and I looked objectively at the two images on my screen.

    I took this screen capture of it and sent it to the team...


    This is about as raw an image as I would ever share with you as a preview. It was captured with Windows Snipping Tool by simply selecting that area of my desktop while I was working. No editing, no posing, no post production... Hell I didn't even have one of the guys put our usual color border and branding on it. This is what my desktop looks like with both simulators running side-by-side.

    I took a photo of my screen and sent it to a buddy of mine who just happens to by flying a 737 from KSAN to KIAD this moment, and he replied back with a similar photo taken over the panel of the airplane he is sitting in this moment. I began comparing details- and thought: "simmers are going to LOVE this when we are done."

    And that caused me to think: Well... Sure... It is in development and has plenty of flaws- but lets put this out there so you can see the state of things- and that the silence and hard work on our end, combined with the patience on your end is close to paying off.


    This second image isn't quite as spontaneous, but it is equally raw. I just turned the head viewpoint to the right a bit so you can see more of the detail work.

    I want to be clear: This is NOT what the finished product will look like, because it is still in development. We are still addressing animation issues, lighting issues, and large swaths of the cockpit are still being re-textured to bring their light reflective/refractive and texture qualities up to the fully capability of MSFS. There are some panel gaps that have to be addressed, and lots of other ticky-tack details that get addressed as we keep moving the product down the production line- but this is the current state of it as of this moment.

    You may recall that when we originally did our cockpit rebuild for the PMDG 737NG3, it was expected to be released for Prepar3D because nobody had any inkling that MSFS was in development back in early 2019. Now, two years later we have gone back to the roots and rebuilt the cockpit again. Massive sections of geometry have been rebuilt, dramatically increasing the definition of of all aspects of the model. We are rebuilding materials, laying purpose-built textures onto the geometry and improving animations using tools not available to us in Prepar3D.

    The results, while not finished, are stunning.


    I created this third image because it shows you another example of an area that is actually in-development while I took the image. This portion of the cockpit is being rebuilt/textured pretty much in real-time this afternoon, but the PBE case has been affixed to the cockpit wall and it really shows the difference in what we can accomplish between MSFS and Prepar3D. To give you an idea what I mean by "in real time" you will notice that the green locking tag appears to be floating in air. As I was posting this, Vin reported that he is nearly finished with the knurled plastic tie-wrap that holds it in place...

    Normally we wouldn't show you something like this until it was finished, properly lighted, staged, imaged, reviewed and branded....

    But today we thought we would do something a little different just to give you an idea what is happening in the background.

    Alright- so I need to get back to my computations before anyone notices I have gone missing. Then my covid booster at 2300Z, possibly some DC-3 flying tomorrow and then back to coding in the evening... I may be making a guest appearance on SkyBlue Radio next Friday if Jeff and I can firm up our schedules a bit... Stay tuned for more on that.

    I hope you all have a very nice weekend!

    LATE EDIT: A few folks have asked about the release timeline. I'll have more information on that in another update that is a bit more broad-based.

    LATE EDIT2: A few folks have asked about [insert topic that isn't related to 737 release here]. I'll have more information on that in another update that is not specific to the 737.
    Robert S. Randazzo
    PMDG Simulations

    Tomas Zima Prague



      Will you make it to Christmas?
      Tomas Zima Prague


      • Jackaroo
        Jackaroo commented
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        Most likely no.

      Amazing, don't get me wrong P3D served me extremely well over the best part of the decade, but to me the NG3 looks amazing (and it's still not done). I really can't wait to be rolling down the runway at YPAD on my first flight!

      p.s, hope you feel fine after your booster, had mine yesterday and I feel a bit off
      Last edited by EasternT3; 13Nov2021, 00:08.
      Joe Colehouse


      • rsrandazzo
        rsrandazzo commented
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        Joe- So far so good... But I'm always a bit off according to those who know me. :-) - RSR

      • EasternT3
        EasternT3 commented
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        I have often been told the same :P anyway now got my flu jab so lets see how much worse I can get

      That's awesome !
      Thimote Brunot
      PMDG 737 & 747/8 & 777


        Beautiful, really! Thanks for sharing!

        Well, my screen is your DC-3, so rest assured, she's bootiful too

        Robert, since I see it in this picture and since I've just flown the DC-6.. Could you please make sure the Yoke can be removed in the MSFS 737 as in previous versions? In the DC6 it's not possible and it's the only thing I don't like in the plane as it doesn't move 1:1 like my yoke which I find disturbing/distracting.


        Looking forward =)
        Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k
        Marc Eland
        GFO Beta


        • rsrandazzo
          rsrandazzo commented
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          Marc- It cannot be removed. It moves downard, just like in every version of our 737 dating back to 2003... we did that because the natural yoke position puts the right horn directly in the visual path of the L CDU. In real-life this is hardly noticeable but in a sim with a fixed head position it becomes problematic. - RSR

        • Ephedrin
          Ephedrin commented
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          Robert, yep, of course! It was late here and I had matches holding my eyes open ^^ , it‘s basically what I meant and I‘m glad you kept it in mind I can move the yoke out of my direction of view in P3D and normally don‘t see it while flying manually.

        Looks very nice, are we still on track for this year? I see it wasn't mentioned.
        David Norfolk


        • StachM
          StachM commented
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          The statement „it is still in development“ makes this unlikely in my estimation. Development, testing and release would have to be accomplished in 1 1/2 months or so. Simply not realistic. And then there are the other products in the pipeline…

        • rsrandazzo
          rsrandazzo commented
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          Don't get too hung up on definitions. We still describe the 747 as "in development" also because we are testing an update for it... This is why we don't often assign labels to phases. Too much guesswork and misinformation spreads from it. - RSR

        • davidnorfolk96
          davidnorfolk96 commented
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          I see the teasing begins now Robert 😂

        Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.
        Jeff Hendershot


          Awesome, I'm so excited for this! Are you able to tell us if we're getting an EFB similar to the previous releases, or if we will be getting a bit more "innovative" EFB with more features? (Something more similar to what airlines use)
          Last edited by HenrikIsaksen; 13Nov2021, 00:30.
          Henrik Isaksen

          Cabin Crew on the Boeing 737
          AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3D | RTX 3080 | 32GB DDR4 RAM @ 3200Mhz | Windows 11


          • rsrandazzo
            rsrandazzo commented
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            Henrik- The EFB will be the same class as in previous builds. -RSR

          • mmoja
            mmoja commented
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            Do you mean like an iPad type EFB? @Henrik


          • HenrikIsaksen
            HenrikIsaksen commented
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            I see, thanks rsrandazzo! Yea, I mean something more similar to what Fenix and FSLabs has done mmoja


          Wojtek Pietrusiewicz


            my bank is not gonna be happy with this lmao THOSE SCREENSHOTS ARE FIRE THO


            • rsrandazzo
              rsrandazzo commented
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              Nameless- I strongly encourage that you displease your bank in this case. :-) - RSR (please sign your posts for us here... Thanks!)

            Cant wait! I keep having to turn on my old computer, move all the controls back to file the PMDG 738. Looking forward to doing this in MSFS2020.
            Ron King


              Thank you so much team! This is exactly what I had asked for in the last update, and as I was hoping it is absolutely beautiful! We all appreciate your openness about the process and bringing us along for the ride. I can not tell you all how excited we are about the new aircraft! Silly question I'm sure and I can't remember if it was already covered, but was there a discount for previous customers of the product? I totally understand that it is a brand new simulator with much effort going into the effort and I have already planned to buy it when it comes out, but its always worth the ask. You all are rockstars and I can't wait to fly more properly in this sim again!

              Jason Ellis
              Jason Ellis
              Instrument Pilot wishing I was more.


              • rsrandazzo
                rsrandazzo commented
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                Jason- When we released the 737NGXu for P3D, we offered a "looking forward" credit to customers who purchased the NGXu during a limited time window. Those folks will get their credit automatically at purchase time when this releases. We do not plan any other discount programs, however. - RSR

              • navyellis
                navyellis commented
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                Perfect! I'm pretty sure I did that! is there a way to verify?

                Jason Ellis

              Thank you! Those images just made my day.
              I cannot wait for release day now.
              You may all pad yourselfs on the back and shout out loud and proud. "We are making history here!", because it is going to be sooooo awesome, once it releases.
              Isak Eriksen - Denmark - EKCH - EKVG
              Flight Simulator enthusiast since


                After booster FAA grounds you for 48 hours. I have already cancelled my flights because of that
                flight sim enthusiast, airplane owner, CFI


                • rsrandazzo
                  rsrandazzo commented
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                  A- (Did your parents really name you A? Do you have a sibling named B? I'm just curious. :-p ) OOOOH... dammit... yer right! Thanks for the reminder. I had completely forgotten this. I guess extra walks with Solo the Failed Showdog are the order of the day, now. - RSR

                • sd_flyer
                  sd_flyer commented
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                  My last name spelling is unique enough so A or B wouldn't make any difference LOL

                Please, devs - don't get bullied by the men in suits (!). Take your time - go steady - and don't get too sidetracked into keeping us poor customers happy. We *know* it will be an exceptional product - simply because all your previous releases have been. You won't lose any sales when keeping your noses to the grindstone - we'll all patiently wait until *you* say it's ready!

                Meanwhile, MSFS users have plenty to enjoy with the DC-6!!!
                Adam Banks (Adamski_NZ) :


                  Looks fantastic, cannot wait until it's launched. I think this aircraft will become one of the all time greats in flight simming. well done all.

                  Clive Rose


                    I'm a little bit disappointed by the lack of any update whatsoever regarding the LNAV upgrade, and also GFO. (The NG3 looks great, but I won't be using MSFS anytime soon.) It was even said there was a chance the 747 would receive this update already in late summer, depending on how beta testing is going. I am still prepared (pun fully intended) to buy the QOTS II largely for this reason. I also happen to be one of those 737 lovers, and I think nothing would improve an already excellent product more than a better lateral navigational performance and some ACARS functionality.


                    • rsrandazzo
                      rsrandazzo commented
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                      Marius- I was watching a preview for the new model year Chevy Silverado 2500HD Duramax, and I was disappointed that they didn't talk about the new plug-in-hybrid version that is in development and testing... Then I remembered that the preview I was watching had nothing whatever to do with the new plug-in-hybrid version- so I didn't take the time to complain to them about it. :-) - RSR

                    • BodoM
                      BodoM commented
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                      @rrandazzo: What does a Chevy Silverado has to do with a valid question about the progress of the LNAV update? Meanwhile I have the feeling that this has been dropped for the P3D fleet in favour of the NG3 development for MSFS. So probably that means, if you like to have a better LNAV/magenta drawing fetaure you have to buy the NG737 for MSFS and further...

                    It looks unbelievable!
                    Rob Crawshaw
                    📺 Flight Sim Content Creator |


                      Originally posted by davidnorfolk96 View Post
                      Looks very nice, are we still on track for this year? I see it wasn't mentioned.
                      Not a chance in hell it will be released this year.
                      Jordan Collins


                        Sad to hear you got COVID, hope you well


                        • rsrandazzo
                          rsrandazzo commented
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                          Luo- Oh- no. I have succesfully avoided Covid thus far. I qualified for a booster to the immunization so I received that today. I am doing all I can to NOT contract this thing. Thanks for your concern, though! - RSR

                        • Yangxin Luo
                          Yangxin Luo commented
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                          Oh that's great, I missed the words. Hope all you well!!!

                        Awesome, but I'm only a first officer ...

                        Cheers, Rob.


                        • rsrandazzo
                          rsrandazzo commented
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                          Rob- Not to us, you aren't. :-) - RSR

                        Looking awesome, can't wait
                        Mikael Leinonen EFHK


                          Wow, thanks for the raw images! I, like many, are excited to see this getting closer. Thanks again Rob!
                          Jhan M. Jensen
                          KSLC/KOGD - PMDG Beta Tester


                            It's looking awesome 😍


                              Holy Smokes! Just when you thought it could get any better?!
                              Kendall T. Carlile


                                Thankyou Robert for taking the time out and sharing this with us.Stay safe and keep well.
                                Danny Z.Cebis


                                  Wow when there is nothing to compere it is just amazing how the 737 has looked thru the years in PD3 and even older version of FSX then other new sim arrived and you can see the quality in the MSFS that makes a "wow shout out" what nice NG 737 flight deck details. I can say that being an AME endorsed in the 737 family it is so accurate and looks so real that I can not wait to have the NG added to my MSFS airplanes files!
                                  thank you Capt Randazzo for these pics! I enjoy them like a kid looking thru the store window for the next airplane toy to buy LOL RO
                                  Rolando Olmo


                                    Robert, thank you very much for sharing these raw images. It is these things that most of us want to see. It's been a while since I last flew the 737 in FSX. I used it to do some YouTube tutorials for the IVAO network and generally have a lot of fun flying through Europe with the NGx. Seeing the new cockpit, whether it is highly polished or not, gives me goose bumps. The idea of an upcoming new 777 is driving me crazy: D

                                    A question comes to mind: I can imagine that the new 737 will also have a route uplink. Will a Simbrief data link be possible (as with the FBW A32NX)?

                                    Take care of yourself and stay healthy!
                                    Marvin Rudolf


                                      Thanks for the update, the screenshots are looking very juicy so far.
                                      Ranjoy Biswas