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A few shots of the DC-6 taken through the beta period

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    A few shots of the DC-6 taken through the beta period

    Hi all,

    While I'm no storyteller like cavaricooper, I thought I might drop in a few images I've taken at various points through the beta test period, and add some thoughts about what we've been working with.

    Like many of you who've dipped your toes in the waters of MSFS2020, I am excited at the prospect of what this new platform can offer, but also a bit frustrated at the relative lack of truly in-depth aircraft simulations available right now.

    That's not to take away from some of the marvelous work that has been done by developers such as Working Title in the CJ4 and FlyByWire in the A320 NEO. Heck, I flew that CJ4 around the world and enjoyed every minute of it. But the fact is that we are at the start of an era here, and like with FS2002. FS9, FSX, and P3D, there is always a period where the ecosystem hasn't fully matured yet. More so because with FS2020 there is no simple 'porting over' of aircraft from the old world. As PMDG have found out, you've got to go back to the beginning, and these things take time.

    The DC-6, in my opinion, is going to be a watershed moment for this simulator. Those of you who know and love the -6 from previous platforms will find the very same in-depth simulation you've enjoyed over the past few years, but dialed up to new levels of visual fidelity. I would liken it to getting a long-overdue new glasses prescription in that you suddenly see things in crisp clear relief. The flight deck has been pushed to new limits, and even after a few months spent in the flight deck, I still catch myself marveling at just how beautiful it is. The external model is also a real treat for the eyes, and it is this aspect of the simulation that I want to show today.

    Sorry if I sound like a one-man marketing department here (Fun fact: If you say my name fast enough and in a kiwi accent, it does actually sound like "marketing"), but the DC-6 is going to blow you away.

    Disclaimer: These images are from throughout the beta (obviously) and don't 100% represent the final product to be released. One or two of these images are the product of a panoramic stitching program. Any anomalies in the external model are 100% the result of the application I use for that, rather than the model itself.

    First off, a demonstration of how the lighting plays off the surface of the aircraft at dusk.

    Screenshot (30).jpg Screenshot (34).jpg
    These next four images really show off the intricate sculpting of the aluminium surface, complete with joins, seams and reinforcement plating.

    Screenshot (42).jpg Screenshot (50) Panorama.jpg Screenshot (70).jpg Screenshot (67).jpg This is a great aircraft for exploring down low. Interestingly a lot of present day operators of the DC-6 fly it unpressurised, and in any case the performance at lower altitudes is somewhat superior.

    Screenshot (117).jpg Screenshot (109).jpg And last of all, let's talk about ramp presence. This aircraft really catches your eye when she's at rest. I'd liken her less to an airliner about to go form A to B, and more like an ocean going ship about to embark on a voyage to far flung places. There's a sense of occasion about the aircraft.

    Screenshot (182) Panorama.jpg Screenshot (198) Panorama.jpg Screenshot (120).jpg Hope you enjoyed these shots. The beta team can't wait to see you in the skies!

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    Last edited by Markadeane; 29May2021, 02:39.
    Mark Adeane


    #2
    Awesome pictures!!

    Guessing it will be out soon
    Alex Kulak
    PMDG Studier and flyer

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      #3
      Mark,

      Fantastic shots. I hope you don't mind me sharing a few of my own.

      First three are from tonight, but the last two are from earlier in testing.

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      Mike Roth

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        #4
        Flying unpressurised is awesome! This means that you don't have to worry about the flight cycle, which means a longer life.


        Kouki Yamagishi
        Kouki Yamagishi

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          #5
          Fantastic shots. You guys are making the wait more enjoyable... and really hard at the same time...

          They tell me patience is a virtue, and I'm doing my best...
          Alan Ampolsk
          __________________________________________

          "Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!" -- Saint-Exupery

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          • Swaluver88
            Swaluver88 commented
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            P=patience

          • Alan_A
            Alan_A commented
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            Swaluver88 - Just tie me to the mast, and I'll be fine...

          • Swaluver88
            Swaluver88 commented
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            When the wind blows🎶🎶🎶

          #6
          Alan_A

          Alan- you will be Gob Smacked Mate- she's grand.

          Markadeane

          Chaos81

          Lovely pics Gents! I share your excitement and anticipation about seeing the skies filled with this ancient wonder... VATSIM will have to restructure traffic flows on the fly

          C
          Best- Carl Avari-Cooper

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          • Alan_A
            Alan_A commented
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            cavaricooper - Well, she was my favorite propliner in FSX/P3D. Better than that? OK, then! Better than that!

            Now I know how I'm going to spend my summer...

          #7
          Haha I too thought about the controllers who will suddenly have to think into all these IFR flights without RNAV capabilities and app speeds around 100

          outstanding shots, can‘t wait to get my fingers on her! Those 4 big packs are double fun ^^
          i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
          Marc Ehnle

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            #8
            Originally posted by Ephedrin View Post
            Haha I too thought about the controllers who will suddenly have to think into all these IFR flights without RNAV capabilities and app speeds around 100

            outstanding shots, can‘t wait to get my fingers on her! Those 4 big packs are double fun ^^
            Theoretically with the GPS you can fly any approach you want... The issue with the controllers will be the low descent rate, the low descent speed, the more track miles needed to slow down... It will be interesting for them
            Chris Makris (Olympic260)
            PMDG Technical Support
            http://www.pmdg.com

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              #9
              Originally posted by cmakris View Post

              Theoretically with the GPS you can fly any approach you want... The issue with the controllers will be the low descent rate, the low descent speed, the more track miles needed to slow down... It will be interesting for them
              interesting for sure.

              I wonder whether this would be done in reality to connect the Garmin to the HSI and hence the NAV/LOC mode of the gyropilot in such an airplane. Would certainly mean a great upgrade for RNP airspace.
              i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
              Marc Ehnle

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                #10
                Absolutely beautiful model. The rippling of the aluminium is just perfect. A complete knockout!!

                Thank you for sharing!
                Matthew Glanden

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                  #11
                  That Pan Am livery looks absolutely lovely
                  Giuseppe Nelva

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                    #12
                    I'll join this bandwagon. I don't have the Southern Alps that Mark has available outside his door in New Zealand, but there is a special beauty found in the arid Southwestern US that I enjoyed for decades flying below the flight levels in a twin Cessna. I never saw it reproduced very well in FSX/P3D even with Orbx openLC. MSFS really shines in this regard, here I am at 10500 ft cruising over New Mexico on a hour trip from Amarillo to Santa Fe. What a beautiful trip it was:

                    Capture.JPG
                    Dan Downs KCRP
                    i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                      #13
                      I dont think the PMDG DC-6 has ever looked so good! The lighting model in MSFS is outstanding and it really brings any objects to life.

                      From Robs tutorial videos on YouTube to these Beta pictures, this is really an addon to be excited about for many reasons!
                      Ciarán Andrews

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                        #14
                        Has PMDG considered changing its name to "PPDG (Precision Propliner Development Group"? In addition to this beautiful aircraft, I would like to see a Lockheed Constellation, a Boeing Stratocruiser and a Boeing 314 Flying Boat for starters.
                        Mike

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                          #15
                          Mike777 - What? No DC-3? Heretic!

                          I'd take any of those on your list.

                          You know what else I'd like to see at some point? An L-188 Electra. Not sure there's ever been a good sim version - if so, not for a very long time. It'd be a pretty interesting transitional experience.

                          To all: not trying to hijack the thread, just to mark time 'til the next batch of screenshots shows up.
                          Alan Ampolsk
                          __________________________________________

                          "Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!" -- Saint-Exupery

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                          • Mike777
                            Mike777 commented
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                            A serious omission on my part, especially given RSR's personal aircraft!

                          • Alan_A
                            Alan_A commented
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                            <sings> Someday, my Dak will come...

                          #16
                          Originally posted by Alan_A View Post
                          Mike777 - What? No DC-3? Heretic!
                          A DC-3. You know we know a guy who owns one...
                          Robert S. Randazzo
                          PMDG Simulations
                          http://www.pmdg.com


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                            #17
                            Originally posted by rsrandazzo View Post

                            A DC-3. You know we know a guy who owns one...
                            I’ve heard that 😎

                            And I keep scanning the skies.

                            The life of a coastwatcher is lonely and hard...

                            Alan Ampolsk
                            __________________________________________

                            "Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!" -- Saint-Exupery

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                              #18
                              Stunning pictures Mark!

                              Lucas Jackson
                              PMDG Unofficial Discord Server : https://discord.gg/htZkWNgj9K

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                                #19
                                can't wait
                                Alaa Riad

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                                  #20
                                  I was cleaning out some files, and thought you might enjoy theses... hope that's ok Mark?

                                  A few more from some earlier sessions- her Aluminum is breathtaking, nicht?

























                                  Best- Carl Avari-Cooper

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                                    #21
                                    Stunning pictures again Carl! The sun reflecting on the prop plates is just amazing!
                                    i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
                                    Marc Ehnle

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                                      #22
                                      unbelievable really, better than real life.......
                                      Alaa Riad

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                                        #23
                                        Nice pictures, can't wait to fly it. I hope the tutorials about VOR flying will be easy to understand. I keep having trouble to fly the old fashioned way.
                                        Eric van Dorp

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                                          #24
                                          Man those are some really breathtaking shots. Too bad I can’t recreate them with my current PC specs. I can only afford medium settings at the moment unless I want to plummet way below 30 FPS.

                                          Edit:
                                          DDowns
                                          Since you have your specs listed, is that 2080TI performing to your liking or are you eyeing an upgrade?
                                          Last edited by HighFlier; 30May2021, 21:31.
                                          James Ward

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                                          • mats0916
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                                            James,
                                            I was running MSFS and the DC-6 on a GTX 1070 OC 8GB with pleasant performance around Scandinavia at pretty much HIGH-END settings

                                          #25
                                          Originally posted by HighFlier View Post
                                          Man those are some really breathtaking shots. Too bad I can’t recreate them with my current PC specs. I can only afford medium settings at the moment unless I want to plummet way below 30 FPS.

                                          Edit:
                                          DDowns
                                          Since you have your specs listed, is that 2080TI performing to your liking or are you eyeing an upgrade?
                                          I don't have any complaints. All my settings in MSFS are "ultra" and I never look at frame rate: Fluid animation is the key thing for me. I got the 2080Ti at a steep discount by getting a refurbished one from Newegg, sold by them not a third party. It will do until there are 3080Ti's available at suggested retail pricing.
                                          Dan Downs KCRP
                                          i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                                            #26
                                            HighFlier
                                            James- all these were with a 6700k and a 1080Ti... no need for a rubber room mate... but if you manage to find a 3090 send us a linky please!



                                            I habitually complement the VATSIM Controllers in ZATL, Vienna and London, but I had SUCH A GREAT EXPERIENCE this afternoon with my own local KZMA, that I had to give them a shout out. We had a very helpful Ground Controller, and Center was fantastic. He was curious WHY we needed to descend from 8000 that far out of Key West, but once he realized we were old and slow, he was very accommodating so Bravo Zulu KZMA- thanks for a fantastic flight!

                                            While US Customs was sniffing around, and the Pratts were ticking in the sun, I thought I'd pull out my 110 InstaMatic (are YOU old enough to remember those?)....

























                                            BTW this was a flight from LVFR's Miama to FSDT's Key West... both very well done!

                                            TTFN

                                            Best- Carl Avari-Cooper

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                                            • Swagger897
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                                              Nice shots! After I read the announcement last week I took out my Delta 6B and did a ‘quick’ hop from Atlanta to Key West myself. Seeing your shots there, well, there’s no contest that it spells the end for P3D.

                                            #27
                                            I am continuing my Southwest tour, here passing Lake Powell enroute to Bryce Canyon:

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                                            Dan Downs KCRP
                                            i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                                            • DDowns
                                              DDowns commented
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                                              Arrived strictly VFR, no GPS, using the lay of the land and a sectional chart to find KBCE, enter left downwind for 21 and land. This is the most fun you can have with your pants on.

                                            • Ephedrin
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                                              I'd like to like that comment too ^^

                                            #28
                                            It looks beautiful, can't wait to bring out my paintbrushes..

                                            But I'm not sure about those reflecting propdiscs, they seem a bit too much to me, at least in some of those shots, I'd make them a bit more transparant I think

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                                              #29
                                              Is the Yoke movement acurate? 95 Degrees? Realy nice cant wait

                                              best Regards
                                              Christian Urban

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                                                #30
                                                Originally posted by HighFlier View Post
                                                Man those are some really breathtaking shots. Too bad I can’t recreate them with my current PC specs. I can only afford medium settings at the moment unless I want to plummet way below 30 FPS.

                                                Edit:
                                                DDowns
                                                Since you have your specs listed, is that 2080TI performing to your liking or are you eyeing an upgrade?
                                                Upgrading a 2080Ti only for MSFS is likely not worth it at the moment. We are still heavily CPU bound. Id say wait till you see the new optimisations and DX12 before you upgrade from a 2080Ti upwards.
                                                Sandro Vitalini

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