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    how about a 737 - 300, 400, 500?

    i don't know about the rest of the forum, but i think a 737 - 300, 400, and 500 would be an amazing product to bring to p3d/msfs2020, who else could get onboard with this?

    has this ever been an idea of PMDG?


    Wayne Anstey

    #2
    I wish that would happen. Never say never I suppose!

    James Lees - ATPL
    i9 10900k, 2080TI. P3D v5, MSFS, X Plane

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      #3
      Classic would be better than MAX
      Kind regards,
      Leandro Schmitt

      @SBNF

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        #4
        There was an old RSR interview where he stated that PMDG tend to develop airplanes only when they're also relevant in the real world (which I interpret as being part of the current Boeing offering). Boeing don't manufacture classics anymore so it's unlikely that PMDG will develop one.

        But that was an old interview, so who knows.
        Omar Josef
        737 FO
        757/767 rated
        Spain

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        • Vpcnnkel@gmail.com
          [email protected] commented
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          X-aviation produces an excellent 737 300 model fox x-plane. I use it with x-plane ll.5. Excellent cockpit realism, easy-to-use and excellent flight characteristics.

        • Aeromar
          Aeromar commented
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          Yeah, but it's not at the same level of PMDG level of detail. Cockpit realism is important, true, but I value systems accuracy more.

        • Vpcnnkel@gmail.com
          [email protected] commented
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          I think you are correct about the systems accuracy. It flies equally as well as the PMDG Prepar3d 800

        #5
        Yeah, I feel Classic is more "appropriate feeling" aircraft than NG. Doesn't feel like the same cockpit have parts from too different era. (Well, while it should have EICAS etc, like 757 for that era...but....)

        Also I have heard from old guys who have hands on them say the classic have much smoother feeling on control yokes than NG.
        ZHU Hai
        B737 Ground instructor

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          #6
          The question probably comes down to the most profitable business model for the developers. Do customers prefer real world ops in the simulator or vintage ones? I know the DC-6 is popular with old-school fans, but does it sell as well as the 737/747/777? Does the team have enough resources to develop a current and classic aircraft in parallel, for example 787 and 727?
          Luis Linares
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            #7
            We have enough 737's. How about a 787?
            David Porrett
            Sea Pilot
            CPL, ME, CFI, IFR
            Mooney M20M (G500/GTN)

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              #8
              Originally posted by DavidP View Post
              We have enough 737's. How about a 787?
              we have enough of those too??
              Michael Backes
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                #9
                Originally posted by elmucki View Post
                we have enough of those too??
                Who else did one other than QualityWings (and don't tell me Abacus).
                Captain Kevin

                Kevin Yang

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                • VHOJT
                  VHOJT commented
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                  Yep. We need to see a top notch 787 made.

                #10
                meh, maybe there are a few, but PMDG like to do stuff to a much higher fidelity than most other developers. 737 classic and now come to think of it a 757 which still operate especially for cargo would be awesome, such icon aircraft that i think people could really get behind... Captain sim came out with their 757 but even though it was alright i still felt that they didn't go as far into it as PMDG probably would have had they taken on the project.

                anyway, was just a thought and something to provoke a discussion. i'd happily pay the money for a classic 737 or a 757 if they were of the quality of the other PMDG lineup - sure others would do.

                KR
                Wayne Anstey

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                  #11
                  With MSFS in mind, I wonder if PMDG will develop a General Aviation department. MSFS massively opens up the low and slow category.
                  Paul Racines
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                    #12
                    The classic theme often comes up here; but i don't think the PMDG forum reflects the entire sim community.
                    So the 727 and other 757, 737-300 would be niche markets.
                    PMDG makes planes that would get the most sales, as such he only spoke of GFO, NG3 and whispered 777X.
                    At the moment we can just ask ourselves the question, if there will be a new cell made by PMDG.

                    however we have to keep in mind that PMDG supports four different planes with a lot of variations while other developers of the same category support only one family of planes, or even one plane for some.
                    Last edited by [email protected]; 10Apr2021, 14:42.
                    Cédrice Rive 747, MD11, 737, 777

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                      #13
                      Captain sim just released the first classic for P3Dv5. The base pack is now available as a pre-release and it features the -300 version. Yeah i know they're on another level, but i got it and it doesn't... well.... suck like the first release of their 777 for instance.

                      It has very little issues for a pre-release (a few steps above Aerosoft quality) and the modeling is just perfect.

                      It's not what people like to call "study sim" nowadays, but it features perfectly functional independent FMCs, it's perfectly flyable and looks superb.

                      EDIT: They also have a good 737-100 and -200.
                      NUNO PINTO
                      LeNovo Legion 5 PRO · 32GB 3200Mhz 18-18-18 · nVidia RTX3070 · LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz

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                        #14
                        Originally posted by 12_wpa_12 View Post
                        i don't know about the rest of the forum, but i think a 737 - 300, 400, and 500 would be an amazing product to bring to p3d/msfs2020, who else could get onboard with this?

                        has this ever been an idea of PMDG?


                        Wayne Anstey
                        I would add the 737-200 ADV to your list.

                        So, for now I fly the 737-200ADV (FlyJSim) and the 737-300 (IXEG) in Xplane. Both great rides.
                        Vaughan Martell KDTW

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                          #15
                          Originally posted by elmucki View Post

                          we have enough of those too??
                          But we don't have a PMDG 787
                          David Porrett
                          Sea Pilot
                          CPL, ME, CFI, IFR
                          Mooney M20M (G500/GTN)

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                            #16
                            Or, a business jet of some sort - dealers call. Would allow flying into some of Orbx's smaller airports, some of which look fantastic.

                            Mark Trainer
                            Mark Trainer

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                              #17
                              With the 737, 747 and 777 scheduled for msfs in the future, I think they will have their hands full for many months.

                              Stephane Dirand
                              Stephane Dirand

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                                #18
                                What about the Captain Sim 737 Classic? Even though I've read some negative reviews on it, it still looks promising...
                                Evan Cheauré (EvantheKidDS)

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                                  #19
                                  Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                                  Who else did one other than QualityWings (and don't tell me Abacus).
                                  well there goes that.
                                  Michael Backes
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                                  Windows 10 x64 on a 4TB SSD | AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3960X | TRX40 AORUS Master | 128GB DDR4 3600MHz | 1250W PSU | 2x EVGA RTX 3090 | P3D v5 and MSFS2020 on a 4TB SSD | Custom Corsair Hydro Cooling

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                                    #20
                                    A PMDG 737-300/400/500 would be amazing! I’ve flown the Classics on the jumpseat many many times (as well as the NG) and the atmosphere of the Classic flightdeck with EFIS is so mesmerizing. It’s my favorite together with the 757.
                                    Frank van der Werff
                                    The Netherlands

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                                      #21
                                      PMDG’s product line is pretty stretched as is.

                                      To introduce a new aircraft, let alone three, while their other products are in the midst of being updated to MSFS2020 or still being updated to fix countless annoying issues; would result in a noticeable drop in quality across the board.

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                                        #22
                                        X-aviation provides an excellent 737 300 for x-plane. I run it on x-plane 11.5. Excellent cockpit realism, easy to use and excellent flight characteristics.
                                        Kel Thompson
                                        ATP B727 B737

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                                          #23
                                          Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                                          X-aviation provides an excellent 737 300 for x-plane. I run it on x-plane 11.5. Excellent cockpit realism, easy to use and excellent flight characteristics.
                                          And for those of us who don't use X-Plane?
                                          Captain Kevin

                                          Kevin Yang

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                                            #24
                                            Originally posted by Captain Kevin View Post
                                            And for those of us who don't use X-Plane?
                                            Just get one?

                                            I recently back to XP11(I start my sim career with demo version of XP6) for A350,727 and Tu154, and it turns out works great for me.
                                            But one thing works for me is the XP's default airport scenery is "good enough" for me. so unlike when I keep FS9 and P3D, I have headache to maintain both their scenery library.
                                            Maybe that would not work for someone else who want keep high level of scenery.
                                            Last edited by AngelofAttack; 23May2021, 02:34.
                                            ZHU Hai
                                            B737 Ground instructor

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                                              #25
                                              Originally posted by EvantheKidDS View Post
                                              What about the Captain Sim 737 Classic? Even though I've read some negative reviews on it, it still looks promising...
                                              I bought it, flied one local pattern and one line leg, then carpet bombard their BUG tracking forum.... And you know, they just released an eyecandy for MSFS...
                                              To be fair I also have 10+ bug report on NGXu and like half of them are still there. and CS733 is still in beta....
                                              ZHU Hai
                                              B737 Ground instructor

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                                                #26
                                                Originally posted by AngelofAttack View Post
                                                Just get one?

                                                I recently back to XP11(I start my sim career with demo version of XP6) for A350,727 and Tu154, and it turns out works great for me.
                                                But one thing works for me is the XP's default airport scenery is "good enough" for me. so unlike when I keep FS9 and P3D, I have headache to maintain both their scenery library.
                                                Maybe that would not work for someone else who want keep high level of scenery.
                                                Given the time I have available to even fly, I can't justify spending money on a simulator just for one plane when I'm barely going to be using that simulator in the first place. And not everyone is going to spend money on a new simulator just for one plane, either.
                                                Captain Kevin

                                                Kevin Yang

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                                                  #27
                                                  I don't think I can trust Captain Sim considering their feelings about third-party liveries.... Decisive measures are needed....
                                                  Evan Cheauré (EvantheKidDS)

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                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by 12_wpa_12 View Post
                                                    i don't know about the rest of the forum, but i think a 737 - 300, 400, and 500 would be an amazing product to bring to p3d/msfs2020, who else could get onboard with this?

                                                    has this ever been an idea of PMDG?


                                                    Wayne Anstey
                                                    I would strongly agree with that sentiment.
                                                    Konstantinos Tomais

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                                                      #29
                                                      A classic 737 would certainly sell well, the 737 is generally quite popular. I personally am a bit fed up of 737 honestly. Not because of the airplane, I like it. But because of the always recurring procedure: 737, 737 expansion, 737 in facebook, 737 in insta, almost every pilot who starts a youtube channel flies 737 (or A320). It‘s one if the most built aircraft in the world and it‘s all around all the time. I‘m just full. I will welcome the NG3 incl MAX but beyond that there are so many great classic aircraft that could be done by a caring and passionate developer even in the Boeing 7x7 family that would really attract my interest. But not another 737.

                                                      And for the sake of classic airplanes, there are great british aircraft too that for some reason have never been touched.
                                                      i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
                                                      Marc Ehnle

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                                                        #30
                                                        I would love a classic 737, however, the one aircraft that I wish I could have in my hanger is a PMDG 757. I know there have been a few offerings from other companies, but not a study level version. And with the new Microsoft Sim, I hope my wishes become reality 😂

                                                        Thomas Wills

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