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PMDG, DCS, and the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet 'Rhino'

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    PMDG, DCS, and the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet 'Rhino'

    So I've been taking a break from civie flight sims and delved fully into the World that is DCS. You may think, well who cares? On this forum you would be right, except I saw a post regarding a wishlist of non-DCS affiliated third party devs, and PMDG came up in more than one comment.

    So it got me thinking, of course I threw in my dream wish of you guys developing the B-52H or the KC-135R. However, DCS is more on the tactical side of combat aviation. However, this did remind me of PMDGs good working relationship with The Boeing Corporation.

    Using my thinking noodle, I came to the conclusion that there is enough publicly available information to make the Block 1 Rhino to the level of detail PMDG is accustomed to delivering. I wouldn't expect it tmrw, or even a couple of years from now, but its something I've thought about. I always think multiple streams of revenue are important. I also understand that it would probably be a greater task than going from P3D to MSFS. However, I know it would be received well in the DCS community. I also know that since Boeing merged with MacD in 91, they have all the licensing for two very important aircraft in DCS that aren't full-fidelity or modules themselves, the F-4 Phantom II, and the F-15C Eagle.

    I know PMDG is about civie flig sims, and I know PMDG has a full plate, but its just some food for thought.
    Austin Jones

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    This is just my opinion, but a license agreement with Boeing, such as the one pmdg has, is a little bitter sweet. The sweet part is obvious, but the bitter part is pmdg aren't "allowed" to have certain things. One example is they can't have certain failure options available to us in some of their products.
    Bryan Richards

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      #3
      Originally posted by tcasclimb View Post
      This is just my opinion, but a license agreement with Boeing, such as the one pmdg has, is a little bitter sweet. The sweet part is obvious, but the bitter part is pmdg aren't "allowed" to have certain things. One example is they can't have certain failure options available to us in some of their products.
      I mean,is this something that you know or is confirmed? Or is that conjecture?
      Last edited by JailbaitAJ; 06Apr2021, 04:36.
      Austin Jones

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        #4
        I already asked about this and the answer is no. Everything is about MSFS now. Eagle Dynamics image isn’t all that great and from what I understand they’re not easy to work with.
        Last edited by Sunshine; 06Apr2021, 05:01.
        Jeannette Benoit

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          #5
          And we all know PMDG doesn't going well with MD part LOL
          ZHU Hai
          B737 Ground instructor

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          • Yoshua
            Yoshua commented
            Editing a comment
            I mean MD is now Boeing so they work well with MD.

          #6
          Originally posted by JailbaitAJ View Post

          I mean,is this something that you know or is confirmed? Or is that conjecture?
          It was said when someone asked about adding more failures to the 737, the response was the failures that are in now is what they're allowed to have.

          Edit: for reference

          https://forum.pmdg.com/forum/main-fo...e-failure-mode
          Bryan Richards

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            #7
            DCS is very much a high fidelity sim, and all the addons are expected to be of PMDG quality by the userbase. One blatantly obvious observation is the age of all the payware addons, most being of cold war vintage, but definitely not the latest tech. Many things are still a secret.
            Another peculiar thing is a serious lack of decent Russian equipment. It's not their fault, their own government killed off any ability for them to do so. Funny that a Russian developer created the leading high fidelity sim of Western aircraft.
            William Holland

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            • Yoshua
              Yoshua commented
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              They are working on a Mig-29 but older I think 80's Mig-29.

            #8
            Originally posted by wjh308 View Post
            DCS is very much a high fidelity sim, and all the addons are expected to be of PMDG quality by the userbase. One blatantly obvious observation is the age of all the payware addons, most being of cold war vintage, but definitely not the latest tech. Many things are still a secret.
            Another peculiar thing is a serious lack of decent Russian equipment. It's not their fault, their own government killed off any ability for them to do so. Funny that a Russian developer created the leading high fidelity sim of Western aircraft.
            They have the Hind, which I pre-ordered in blind euphoria haha.

            I think that PMDG has their niche, but this was more a post to maybe turn their attention elsewhere. However, the Blk.50 Viper they use is actually of 2005 vintage, and I believe the Lot 20 Legacy Hornet is of 2007 vintage. Those eras maybe crossed, but they are definitely the most modern jets that DCS could get publicly sourced, not classified docs. There is a lot of information out there if you look hard enough, its just that a company like ED is not going to risk their reputation when they have customers like the ANG.

            As to Russians laws, its the reason that DCS is getting the Mig-29 9-12 (think Fulcrum-A or the earliest variant) which will not have Fox-3s

            I digress, maybe I was hoping that my favorite civie sim dev would see this and maybe contemplate taking the plunge into DCS.

            One can dream.
            Austin Jones

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              #9
              Originally posted by JailbaitAJ View Post
              So I've been taking a break from civie flight sims and delved fully into the World that is DCS. You may think, well who cares? On this forum you would be right, except I saw a post regarding a wishlist of non-DCS affiliated third party devs, and PMDG came up in more than one comment.

              So it got me thinking, of course I threw in my dream wish of you guys developing the B-52H or the KC-135R. However, DCS is more on the tactical side of combat aviation. However, this did remind me of PMDGs good working relationship with The Boeing Corporation.

              Using my thinking noodle, I came to the conclusion that there is enough publicly available information to make the Block 1 Rhino to the level of detail PMDG is accustomed to delivering. I wouldn't expect it tmrw, or even a couple of years from now, but its something I've thought about. I always think multiple streams of revenue are important. I also understand that it would probably be a greater task than going from P3D to MSFS. However, I know it would be received well in the DCS community. I also know that since Boeing merged with MacD in 91, they have all the licensing for two very important aircraft in DCS that aren't full-fidelity or modules themselves, the F-4 Phantom II, and the F-15C Eagle.

              I know PMDG is about civie flig sims, and I know PMDG has a full plate, but its just some food for thought.
              F-4 development was put on hold for the F-18 and F-16. F-18 I think is out of early access now but still has some work to be done. F-16 has a lot of work to be done. F-15C isn't on anyone's list of things to do but the F-15E is being developed by Razbam. I wouldnt mind seeing a tanker like a KC-135 or 46(mostly cause I work on them) but 46 won't happen cause it's new and has work to be done. As far as bombers go I doubt we're gonna see any heavy bombers. Maybe F-111 at some point but that's about it.
              Yoshi Elder

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                #10
                It would be very interesting to see a KC135 or KC46... and with the refueling operator's station with shared cockpit functions.
                On the other hand with regard to tactical transport operations I do not think that there would be enough interested...
                Only I don't think PMDG will develop for the DCS platform. (they will have a lot of work for msfs2020 in the next three years)
                Cédrice Rive P3D4.5
                747, MD11, 737, 777

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                  #11
                  Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                  It would be very interesting to see a KC135 or KC46... and with the refueling operator's station with shared cockpit functions.
                  On the other hand with regard to tactical transport operations I do not think that there would be enough interested...
                  Only I don't think PMDG will develop for the DCS platform. (they will have a lot of work for msfs2020 in the next three years)
                  They won't. I've heard a lot of negativity about ED. VRS was in talks with ED years ago but that went south and I forgot who from VRS hated or didn't like Igor from ED. But yeah a KC-46 wouldn't happen. I honestly would love a C-130 variant. Like KC-130 would be great.
                  Yoshi Elder

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