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    PMDG & GSX door automation

    Hello,

    Is there some way to automate the handling of the doors when using PMDG aircraft in combination with GSX?
    Are there some variables exposed so this could be possible through FSUIPC or Lua? When searching, I find some things regarding LUA & LINDA but that is a bit to difficult and abstract to grasp.
    Reason for asking is that I am spending an unrealistic amount of time on micro-managing my entire ground operation, while I should be focusing on the actual pre-flight tasks.
    Is there any way for PMDG and GSX to interface to automate this proces? Why is PMDG to unrealistic when it comes to these kinds of automation routines, ease of use and quality of life features?

    It's a wildly unrealistic workload for me as a 'pretent-Captian' compared to the real-world (And I am not even mentioning the lack of a copilot here).

    Any insight into this would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks in advance!
    Henk de Vries

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    Should.. should I tell him?

    Joking aside, PMDG already have their own integrated ground services built into the aircraft (NGXu and B747 QOTSII). Also in the upcoming 777. You should try it! Works great and very neat to see all the animated vehicles.

    If you want to use GSX for ground ops, then managing the doors is something that will have to be done manually. (I know, I sometimes use GSX for quicker turns). Would be nice to have it automated, I agree. Although, I don't think we will see it anytime soon.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by Tino; 23Feb2021, 22:25.
    Sante Sottile - GMP, RKSS

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      #3
      Originally posted by Tino View Post
      PMDG already have their own integrated ground services built into the aircraft (NGXu and B747 QOTSII). Also in the upcoming 777.
      I haven't used that too much in the past, and only on the 777 – if I remember correctly the doors did close/arm automatically as soon as the turnaround was completed.

      What I have found to be a real enhancement with certain other addons is that the original OFP numbers entered at the beginning are not necessarily final; i.e. fewer passengers/less cargo (or more, of course) are actually loaded, which is then reflected on the final loadsheet (that you receive via ACARS...). That in turn impels you to check/update your FMS entries and re-run take-off performance calculations if necessary. Very realistic of course since in real life there's nearly always passengers who don't show up for boarding, last minute cargo shipments, etc.

      I think GFO might address that in some way, but it's only speculation if not wishful thinking on my part.

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        #4
        Originally posted by StachM View Post

        I haven't used that too much in the past, and only on the 777 – if I remember correctly the doors did close/arm automatically as soon as the turnaround was completed.

        What I have found to be a real enhancement with certain other addons is that the original OFP numbers entered at the beginning are not necessarily final; i.e. fewer passengers/less cargo (or more, of course) are actually loaded, which is then reflected on the final loadsheet (that you receive via ACARS...). That in turn impels you to check/update your FMS entries and re-run take-off performance calculations if necessary. Very realistic of course since in real life there's nearly always passengers who don't show up for boarding, last minute cargo shipments, etc.

        I think GFO might address that in some way, but it's only speculation if not wishful thinking on my part.
        one or two pax more or less won‘t make you change the ZFW, it won‘t affect that single decimal. It‘ll only annoy the ramp agent.

        anyway, the old 777 had a relatively simple ground ops system if I remember correctly, 737 and 747 now (and probably the new update for the 777) have much more in-depth ground operations. From a pilot pov, while preparing the flight, it‘s more than sufficient to let it run in the background. If you want to watch it from the outside it‘s still nice to look at, but if course there is only the PMDG livery on them. You can hide the vehicles though and use GSX instead although I think the doors will not be synchronized.
        i7-6700k, GTX 1080TI, 32GB DDR4 RAM @2666MHz, 4k
        Marc Ehnle

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          #5
          Luckily the differences are most often not that extreme, otherwise you‘d need a new OFP because the calculations are not valid anymore.

          But even if they are are minor, you‘d still want to enter the latest and most accurate figures (also think CG values etc.). This diligence is part of the fun for me.
          Last edited by StachM; Yesterday, 00:24.

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            #6
            How does the PMDG 777 pushback procedure work? Is it as good as GSX?
            Ben Briscoe

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              #7
              Originally posted by BWBriscoe View Post
              How does the PMDG 777 pushback procedure work? Is it as good as GSX?
              Ben, it is the same as currently available in their 737/747 products. Do you own any of those?
              Dan Downs KCRP
              i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                #8
                Originally posted by DDowns View Post

                Ben, it is the same as currently available in their 737/747 products. Do you own any of those?
                Hi Dan,

                I don't own the 737 or 747. I'm a recent returner to flight sim (after a decade away) and I'm eagerly awaiting the 777 release!

                Ben
                Ben Briscoe

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BWBriscoe View Post

                  Hi Dan,

                  I don't own the 737 or 747. I'm a recent returner to flight sim (after a decade away) and I'm eagerly awaiting the 777 release!

                  Ben
                  PMDG Pushback is an option between their "default pushback" or a u-drive pushback where you get a camera view from the tug and you control the push.
                  Dan Downs KCRP
                  i7-10700K 32GB 3600MHz 2080Ti

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BWBriscoe View Post
                    How does the PMDG 777 pushback procedure work? Is it as good as GSX?
                    I don't own the 777 but have the NGXu and the PMDG pushback sucks really, compared to GSX pushback (and I'm not a fan of fsdreamteam gsx at all), even if you enter the exact feet or mtrs, it positions you not as planned. I olny use GSX for pushback and it works with airports AFCAD taxiways, which is the reason for it to work as it should. It would be nice if PMDG could better this, so I can get rid of the couatl stuff.
                    Sergio Naiberg

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