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[22FEB21] Updated Release Expectations and a Few Other Notes

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    #91
    Originally posted by Captain Bakon View Post
    Can someone please tell me the exact PW4000 variant & thrust rating the -200ER will ship with?

    Thanks!
    PW4090 - 91,790lbs

    Leo Cal

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    • killairbus
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      Where’d you get that?

    #92
    okay thank you

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      #93
      nice news capt.

      is there anything bout Peformance public... fps whise ? does it perform like the 747 or more like the NGXu ?

      Johannes B.

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      • neilh1983
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        FPS is a very subjective thing and differs machine to machine based on hardware, apps, temps, addons, settings etc

      • EDJA_Spotter
        EDJA_Spotter commented
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        true, but theres a noticeable performance difference between 747 and NGXu.

      #94
      This is, hands down, the product I have been excited about the most for the last years, as an absolute lover of the mighty tripple I cannot wait to try this makeover out 😁 Congrats PMDG and thanks for the update!

      (BTW, maybe a rather stupid question but will current liveries still be compatible with the updated aircraft?)
      Raoul Disteldorff,

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        #95
        I for one am hoping will see the release in time for the Vatsim FNO. The airports for this Friday are KSFO, KSJC, KSMF. Lots of 777 flights in and out of KSFO. I can see me flying from KDEN to KSFO for the event. Don't worry if the plane doesn't release by then. All good pilots have a backup, LOL
        Dan Moore

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          #96
          Thank you PMDG for lifting the NDA for the beta-testers
          Tony Argaud LFPG - P3Dv4.5

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            #97
            Originally posted by EDJA_Spotter View Post
            nice news capt.

            is there anything bout Peformance public... fps whise ? does it perform like the 747 or more like the NGXu ?

            Johannes B.
            I think it will be the same FPS maybe a bit better. Its not going to be as heavy as 747 or Ngxu. Ngxu performs the worst for me, followed by 747 and than 777. 777 is outdated, when PMDG will release the overhauled cockpit end of this year, than it probably will be FPS Heavy.

            Nikita Travkin
            Nikita Travkin

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            • Freeman494
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              Pop corn at the ready....I cannot wait for this one. John Freeman

            • nikita1234
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              Hi Rob

              I am not an expert. I am basing on What I see. 777 is the best in terms of FPS since its older technology. Followed by 747 and than NGXu. I remember you had a huge post explaining why NGXu has heavy FPS performance. Its understandable because it has many switches that need to be modelled lighting, hq textures etc... That's all I said. Logically, since 777 cockpit will use the NGXu technology or maybe something even newer, FPS will probably be worse, since more things are modelled but the P3D engine is still same old engine unfortunately .FS 2020 is the future but currently at a disappointing state for now. Only for VFR eye candy flights and that's it.

              P.S. Is it possible to find out what is this overhauled sound engine used for the 777 update. I have been asking around the forums but no one responded. Is it things like wheels hitting the centerline and new ground roll sounds like in 747/NGXu has?

              Cheers
              Last edited by nikita1234; 24Feb2021, 15:16.

            • Cocobellomann
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              Related topic: Forecasting with flowers: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/fore...61465?mode=amp

              😂

            #98
            Originally posted by nikita1234 View Post

            I think it will be the same FPS maybe a bit better. Its not going to be as heavy as 747 or Ngxu. Ngxu performs the worst for me, followed by 747 and than 777. 777 is outdated, when PMDG will release the overhauled cockpit end of this year, than it probably will be FPS Heavy.

            Nikita Travkin
            Yes, I think I'm probably in the minority here but I actually like baked-in lighting like the 744 has for the sake of FPS.
            Rudy Fidao

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            • MattSweet
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              I agree 100%. I think the old 777 has the best cockpit night lighting of all the offerings.

            #99
            Originally posted by VHOJT View Post

            Yes, I think I'm probably in the minority here but I actually like baked-in lighting like the 744 has for the sake of FPS.
            Really, I don't. It stutters when you adjust the VC cockpit intensity both in 777 and 747. The NGXu technology is so much better but it is also FPS heavy unfortunately. Its much more fluid in terms of VC displays and the night lightning. \

            Nikita Travkin
            Nikita Travkin

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              Hello RSR

              Cheers for the update mate! Any chance you'd be working on a 777-300 after this release?

              Ta!
              Don Asalage

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                Originally posted by Don777 View Post
                Hello RSR

                Cheers for the update mate! Any chance you'd be working on a 777-300 after this release?

                Ta!
                I'm pretty sure they said that the -300 would not be developed.
                Robert Sutherland

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                  Originally posted by Don777 View Post
                  Hello RSR

                  Cheers for the update mate! Any chance you'd be working on a 777-300 after this release?

                  Ta!
                  Nope only 48 were created if not mistaken so it's not going to happen,
                  Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                  PMDG Technical Support
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                  • Nuno Pinto
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                    Glad we have 1200+ 767s :P

                  Originally posted by cmakris View Post

                  Nope only 48 were created if not mistaken so it's not going to happen,
                  60 in total but still worth a look considering the fact that you guys even made the 777-200LR and the aircraft is essentially a stretch of the -200ER
                  Regards,

                  Swapnil Sirdeshpande
                  B.E (Aeronautics)

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                    Originally posted by snsb789 View Post

                    60 in total but still worth a look considering the fact that you guys even made the 777-200LR and the aircraft is essentially a stretch of the -200ER
                    The 200LR was done due to each range. As I wrote we do not intend to do the 300. With the 200LR/ 200ER/ 300ER and the F we have covered this variant. In the future when the data are available we will consider the 777X
                    Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                    PMDG Technical Support
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                    • killairbus
                      killairbus commented
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                      Define “sufficient”

                    • aviator268
                      aviator268 commented
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                      snsb789 even if it were sufficient demand, it isn't something that is necessary. As he said, they would have covered the majority of the variants. It's not necessary given you have the -300ER. The fact they considered the -200ER with all engine variants is really a dream come true to cover it.

                      Side note, if they were to consider doing the -300, then it's best they also consider doing the -200...which - as was said - .... not gonna happen... just give thanks bro :-) all the best!

                    • snsb789
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                      aviator268 The reason why I find it justified to make a 773 is because it is a unique aircraft in it's own right. Also saying that the 777-300ER is similar to -300 is plain incorrect as both are very different with the -300 lacking all the enhancements and increased fuel capacity and gross weights of the former. You also have very different balanced field performance, climbout and engine out performance and also have to factor that in. Also your claim that if one were to make the -300 then the -200 must also be made falls flat as the -200ER is essentially a -200IGW with a centre wing tank. Otherwise both share the same Airframe to a large extent except more powerful engines. It's the same rationale vis a vis. the -200ER vs -200LR, in that one doesn't substitute for the other. All in all, I'm pretty sure if they considered this variant as a future expansion then there will be positive response.
                      Last edited by snsb789; 25Feb2021, 06:12.

                    Have a quick question about the repaints. Will Delta 772ER be honored? Yes, I'm aware that DL got rid of them in 2020.
                    DMITRIY TOROPOV (G-YMML)

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                    • Wise87
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                      I already asked and unfortunately Delta is not included in the ER release. Will have to wait for a repaint by a 3rd party painter.

                    Will an Austrian Airlines livery be included for the 777-200 ER with GE90 engines?
                    Kevin Neumann

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                      Will there be any American Airlines Liveries, the largest airline in the world for the -300ER?
                      Pablo Vazquez - FA for a major U.S. Airline

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                      • nathanforce
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                        I wonder if there will be a United Tulip livery for the -200ER
                        -Nathan

                      Originally posted by Fireblaster_Kev View Post
                      Will an Austrian Airlines livery be included for the 777-200 ER with GE90 engines?
                      The two active ER of Austrians are already done
                      Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                      PMDG Technical Support
                      http://www.pmdg.com

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                        Just hope the Omni Air ones will be there as well, on release Thats the one I am waiting for lol!
                        Kim Fjeldstad

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                          Originally posted by Pablo Vazquez View Post
                          Will there be any American Airlines Liveries, the largest airline in the world for the -300ER?
                          There are already 2 300ER of AA
                          Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                          PMDG Technical Support
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                            Originally posted by Airway88 View Post
                            Just hope the Omni Air ones will be there as well, on release Thats the one I am waiting for lol!
                            Nope.

                            And please sign your posts with full name first and last as per rules please.
                            Chris Makris (Olympic260)
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                              Originally posted by cmakris View Post

                              Nope.

                              And please sign your posts with full name first and last as per rules please.
                              To bad it won`t be included, it hopefully will be painted eventually.

                              My name is down on the bottom so
                              Kim Fjeldstad

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                                Originally posted by cmakris View Post

                                There are already 2 300ER of AA
                                by any chance one in the old polished livery?

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                                  I think many 772 liveries will come to us in the future. For me not important which one is at first relase...if AA / TG / SQ / CX / BA is come - thats great :-) for the future like AM / RG would be wunderful too.

                                  Later this day i will do my last 773ER flight and then..all will deinstall for be ready :-) if tomorrow - yes. if sunday - yes too :-))
                                  Last edited by SteffenN; 24Feb2021, 15:23. Reason: Steffen
                                  Steffen Noll
                                  P3Dv4
                                  Frequent Flyer from VHHH based Intercontinental Airlines | Safe the Tourism | make the world accessible
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                                    Originally posted by cmakris View Post

                                    There are already 2 300ER of AA
                                    Thank you! :-)
                                    Pablo Vazquez - FA for a major U.S. Airline

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                                      Originally posted by cmakris View Post

                                      The two active ER of Austrians are already done
                                      Which 2 registrations would that be exactly? I can't wait to see them in the sim, thank you so much. You guys also took a very neutral thrust rating for the GE90 s, they are rather overpowered or underpowered, they are perfectly in the middle. Austrian uses a very derated one and the difference is not big. Thank you so much.
                                      Kevin Neumann

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                                        Originally posted by Fireblaster_Kev View Post

                                        Which 2 registrations would that be exactly? I can't wait to see them in the sim, thank you so much. You guys also took a very neutral thrust rating for the GE90 s, they are rather overpowered or underpowered, they are perfectly in the middle. Austrian uses a very derated one and the difference is not big. Thank you so much.
                                        LPA and LPE are included.
                                        Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                                        PMDG Technical Support
                                        http://www.pmdg.com

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                                        Originally posted by cmakris View Post

                                        LPA and LPE are included.
                                        Very very nice, I requested the OE-LPA from iniBuilds for the PMDG 777-200 LR half a year ago, but now I don't need it anymore, you guys already made it yourself, but it is very nice, two Austrian liveries at the same time.
                                        Kevin Neumann

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                                          Thanks PMDG for allowing Chewwy94 to show a pre-release of the 777 on Twitch.
                                          Dan Moore

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                                            Originally posted by Fireblaster_Kev View Post

                                            Very very nice, I requested the OE-LPA from iniBuilds for the PMDG 777-200 LR half a year ago, but now I don't need it anymore, you guys already made it yourself, but it is very nice, two Austrian liveries at the same time.
                                            They aren't top notch I'm afraid - I'll release my LPD pretty soon after release!
                                            Nicolas Nycz

                                            Find my repaints here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0xl1xyxe...g_ceC1tla?dl=0

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