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UAL 777 Engine Explosion KDEN/PHNL

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    #31
    Originally posted by rsmith6621a View Post
    It would be awesome if RSR would include a CDL/MEL manual to demonstrate how much can be broke and yet this aircraft will still fly.
    That would depend on the licensing agreement they have with Boeing, but given the 737 and the 747 didn't come with them, I would be very surprised if the 777 did.
    Captain Kevin

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      #32
      http://aerossurance.com/safety-manag...77-pw4077-fbo/

      detailed look into the fan blades of the United 777 that suffered a similar uncontained engine failure in 2018, coincidentally, that incident also happened in February.
      Angelo Busato

      PMDG puts an incredible amount of work into their products. We are lucky to have them and their high quality aircraft.

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        #33
        Originally posted by killairbus View Post
        http://aerossurance.com/safety-manag...77-pw4077-fbo/

        detailed look into the fan blades of the United 777 that suffered a similar uncontained engine failure in 2018, coincidentally, that incident also happened in February.
        Well I don’t like your forum name But I agree somethings up with these old Pratt’s... Two sequential line numbers... Wonder if they fixed or trashed the 2018 engine and if they fixed it where did it wind up?

        To those saying Boeing won’t allow failures with visual fire..
        An expensive Airbus addon I happen to love will do that but out the exhaust pipe without missing pieces if you choose to simulate an engine fire. It’s quite unnerving and perhaps is there to lend some gravitas to the situation. I’m excited to try an engine out with the T7 in the coming weeks!
        Ross McDonagh
        KBOS
        PC: Jetline Systems Customized Gravity GT2
        i7 10700K @5.1ghz//RTX 2080S 8GB/32GB DDR4 @3200mhz//1TB WD M.2 NVMe//750W Power supply

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        • Yoshua
          #33.1
          Yoshua commented
          22Feb2021, 04:26
          Editing a comment
          Pretty sure that's just something that shows on all planes by default
        • killairbus
          #33.2
          killairbus commented
          22Feb2021, 06:40
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          The name was from an anti-airbus phase, I’d love to get a study level A320.
        • killairbus
          #33.3
          killairbus commented
          22Feb2021, 07:20
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          The airframes were built sequentially but not necessarily the pair of engines they had.
        #34
        Originally posted by FBWFTW View Post
        Well I don’t like your forum name But I agree somethings up with these old Pratt’s... Two sequential line numbers... Wonder if they fixed or trashed the 2018 engine and if they fixed it where did it wind up?

        To those saying Boeing won’t allow failures with visual fire..
        An expensive Airbus addon I happen to love will do that but out the exhaust pipe without missing pieces if you choose to simulate an engine fire. It’s quite unnerving and perhaps is there to lend some gravitas to the situation. I’m excited to try an engine out with the T7 in the coming weeks!
        I think Boeing and PMDG have the right idea when it comes to simulating an engine failure. I can't imagine there will be a single pilot out there who has suffered a catastrophic engine failure, especially like this latest one at Denver in a United B777, who will ever want to experience another realistic one even in a PC flight simulation! They can't pull off the road and have a stiff drink to settle the inevitable adrenaline rush when it first happens for real and the priority is to land at the nearest suitable airfield, which might be more than an hour away on the one remaining engine.

        Apparently, the airlines are currently grounding their B777's if they are fitted with this same Pratt and Whitney engine, presumably until they know the exact cause and how long it will be to fix if it subsequently turns out to be a major manufacturing or design problem and not a one-off. As for Angelo's user name, sadly I have to agree with you it is in bad taste, but having said that loads of Americans in New York wanted to do the same to Concorde and look what a fantastic technological achievement those aircraft turned out to be!
        Michael Codd

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        • DDowns
          #34.1
          DDowns commented
          23Feb2021, 18:03
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          The emergency airworthiness directive I read required specific inspections. My novice interpretation is that once inspections are complete and any discrepancies are fixed then the aircraft is airworthy. In my mind there is a distinction between grounding and mandating an inspection in that groundings are usually of an indeterminate time.
        #35
        American companies are typically more restrictive in their product portrayals.
        Ilari Kousa, Finland

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          #36
          [QUOTE=Paulyg123;n108775]Damn lawyers[/QUOTE

          I know I can just cut off the fuel to 1 engine and simulate an engine failure, but it wouldn't be a surprise anymore. I flew the PMDG 777 and 737 many times on 1 engine and noticed they handle pretty well and landing is not difficult at all. Is that pretty much true in real life? (plane flies pretty straight without any substantial corrections)
          Paul Gugliotta

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          • Ilari Kousa
            #36.1
            Ilari Kousa commented
            23Feb2021, 18:38
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            The adverse yaw has never been particularly well modeled by PC sims, including in GA twins. This is partly intentional, because most users don't have the gear to reproduce the full range of control inputs for asymmetric steering. Acquaint yourself with the malfunction options in the FMS, there's a pretty good selection in there.
          #37
          Originally posted by Ilari Kousa View Post
          American companies are typically more restrictive in their product portrayals.
          The Russians are a lot worse. In fact, it's what's adversely affected DCS, since the developers are a Russian company and there's a serious dearth of study-level Russian aircraft in the sim, even there's only a few Soviet-era aircraft in there that isn't affected by their restrictions due to them being largely obsolete.
          Craig Norman

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            #38
            [QUOTE=Paulyg123;n109370]
            Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
            Damn lawyers[/QUOTE
            I know I can just cut off the fuel to 1 engine and simulate an engine failure, but it wouldn't be a surprise anymore. I flew the PMDG 777 and 737 many times on 1 engine and noticed they handle pretty well and landing is not difficult at all. Is that pretty much true in real life? (plane flies pretty straight without any substantial corrections)
            Hi Paul,
            If real pilots gave away all of the secrets of their fine art then everybody would want to be a jet jockey and the answer to your question wouldn't be a secret anymore, would it? But if you ever get the chance maybe you should ask this question to the Captain of the United T7 at Denver, because I'm sure many of us would love to know what he thought about having to land on one engine and a few spare parts.
            Michael Codd
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            • Extra300driver
              #38.1
              Extra300driver commented
              Yesterday, 22:32
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              Michael I am with you

              I have had three (yes three) real life engine failures in my career: two in the military and one in an aerobatic aeroplane. They are not something I care to repeat in the sim, no matter how true to life. They are frightening and I am good inch and a half shorter from one of them

              I've done double engine failure on the same side in the 744 sim, in two RB211 boxes and one CF6 box. The latter for some reason had insufficient roll and yaw authority to maintain straight and level, we went over to 120 deg of bank and nosed into the Heathrow cargo centre at around 30 deg nose down. That in itself left me shaking for a few hours after, it was compellingly real
              Last edited by Extra300driver; Yesterday, 22:35.
            #39
            [QUOTE=Michael Codd;n109494]
            Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post

            Hi Paul,
            If real pilots gave away all of the secrets of their fine art then everybody would want to be a jet jockey and the answer to your question wouldn't be a secret anymore, would it? But if you ever get the chance maybe you should ask this question to the Captain of the United T7 at Denver, because I'm sure many of us would love to know what he thought about having to land on one engine and a few spare parts.
            OK, I am calling him now to ask him. I'll let you know what he says.
            Paul Gugliotta
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