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    UAL 777 Engine Explosion KDEN/PHNL

    Interesting day for these passengers. The engine is basically toast. Fortunately the debris did not hit anyone one the ground.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/plane-land...213700325.html
    Randall Smith KGFK PMDG 747 400/800 QOS 737NGXu and GFO BETA Team.Asus 390-E MOBO / 16GB DDR 3200 RAM/ Arctic CPU Cooler / Intel I7 9700K CPU and EVGA RTX 2070 Super GPU

    #2
    Originally posted by rsmith6621a View Post
    Interesting day for these passengers. The engine is basically toast. Fortunately the debris did not hit anyone one the ground.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/plane-land...213700325.html
    Somehow the MAX will make its way into the articles of the media
    Alex Kulak
    PMDG Studier and flyer

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    • cedrice.rive@yahoo.fr
      ced[email protected] commented
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      The media are a scourge fake news, extrapolation...

    #3
    At least we know why the release was delayed.

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      #4
      N772UA took me to and from HNL via SFO back in 2017. Here is a picture I took of her;
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      This gallery has 4 photos.
      Kendall T. Carlile

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        #5
        Here is a video from inside.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBxe4cQzUIY
        Yoshi Elder

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          #6
          Parts that fell in the neighborhood.
          https://youtu.be/lr7eyXfX1F4
          Dan Moore

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            #7
            It all began with a 747 in Europe earlier
            Anton Vind
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              #8
              Originally posted by Anton Vind View Post
              It all began with a 747 in Europe earlier
              747 line being shut down so it's taking everyone with it
              Yoshi Elder

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                #9
                Well there were engine parts dropping from a 747 after departing Maastricht in the Netherlands earlier today, before the incident with the 777
                Anton Vind
                CPU: i9-9900K, GPU: RTX 2080 SUPER, RAM: 32 GB DDR4 3600 MHz, Drives: 2 TB SSD

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                  #10
                  Originally posted by Anton Vind View Post
                  Well there were engine parts dropping from a 747 after departing Maastricht in the Netherlands earlier today, before the incident with the 777
                  Incidentally, also powered by Pratt & Whitney engines.
                  Captain Kevin

                  Kevin Yang

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                    #11
                    Hmm not the first time this had happened.

                    https://www.aviationlogbook.eu/blogs...7-cowling-loss
                    Aleks Matrosov

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                      #12
                      Well, it's not the Max, but certainly "Another Boeing airplane" that got the media's attention. No matter both cases were about the engine failing...
                      Bert Laverman - Software Architect and Developer - Flight Simmer

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                        #13
                        avherald, as always, has the best article on it btw: http://avherald.com/h?article=4e35503b&opt=0

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                          #14
                          Originally posted by bert.laverman View Post
                          Well, it's not the Max, but certainly "Another Boeing airplane" that got the media's attention. No matter both cases were about the engine failing...
                          Eh I wouldn't say the MAX was about engines failing. The engines worked fine till they slammed into the ground.
                          Yoshi Elder

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                          • Extra300driver
                            Extra300driver commented
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                            I think he was referring to the UA 772 and Longtail 744 mate

                            Story should read "the 777 is built like a brick outhouse"

                          • bert.laverman
                            bert.laverman commented
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                            "Both cases" referred to both cases of failing engines on Boeing aircraft that were reported these past few days. No reason to get the Max tragedies into this and I certainly did not intend that.

                          #15
                          Great job by the entire crew landing safely!
                          Luis Linares

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                            #16
                            This was obviously a very unfortunate, but also a very lucky event.

                            First, because nobody was hurt on the ground and second, because it demonstrated the resiliance of self-containment in new engines.

                            There was the very sad event of a Southwest B737 in 2018, where an engine also exploded, but a piece of it pierced a window. Tthe sudden cabin decompression partially sucked a woman out the window and she, unfortunately, died.

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43803340

                            And of course, I had to roll my eyes and wince while watching the news last night, where the reporter kept pushing the expert being interviewed to explain " ... so what does this mean that another Boeing airplane had an incident...."

                            Regards,
                            Roberto
                            Roberto Stopnicki
                            Toronto, Canada

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                            • Michael Codd
                              Michael Codd commented
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                              Hi Roberto, This failure doesn't look to be self-contained. In fact it is very serious because the video I have seen shows the inner core of the engine still burning fuel. The strong engine casing in this area must have disintegrated as a result of the failure and the large outer cowlings and front fan case have also been torn off. To be self-contained any major internal damage normally corn-cobs the turbine blades and gets spewed out of the engine exhaust. The strong engine casings around the compressor and turbine areas and the outer cowlings should all have remained in place.

                            #17
                            The Japanese government has ordered ANA and JAL to stop operating 777s equipped with PW4000 series engines.
                            As a result, ANA will stop flying 19 777s and JAL will stop flying 13 777s.
                            In Japan, there was a problem with the same type of engine last December.
                            This is very sad.

                            https://www.mlit.go.jp/report/press/...hh_000196.html

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                            #18
                            There was also a Korean 777-300 that had one of its PWs catch fire on take off back in 2016.

                            http://avherald.com/h?article=498e2ae5

                            I want to speculate that these PWs don’t like getting old.
                            Angelo Busato

                            PMDG puts an incredible amount of work into their products. We are lucky to have them and their high quality aircraft.

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                              #19
                              https://youtu.be/G7-zh7Sebr8
                              Alex Kulak
                              PMDG Studier and flyer

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                                #20
                                I have left this thread open since it was an incident and not an accident. BUT please do not start speculating otherwise it will be locked
                                Chris Makris (Olympic260)
                                PMDG Technical Support
                                http://www.pmdg.com

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                                • killairbus
                                  killairbus commented
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                                  why can’t we indulge in some speculation? We all know the NTSB has the final word anyways.

                                • Ausflight
                                  Ausflight commented
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                                  PMDG forum is not the place for this kind of speculation.

                                #21
                                Convinced that the 777 is unstoppable. Glad everyone was okay both in the air and on the ground.
                                Gabriel Guzman- IAH "Never stop flying the plane."
                                My ANA 777 fleet project

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                                  #22
                                  It is good to see all the training by pilots, ATC and ground staff come into action to make this a good outcome. Now we need to figure out why engines are blowing up.
                                  Paul Gugliotta

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                                    #23
                                    Interesting how the engine itself stayed largely intact. It just shed all of its "clothing:"
                                    ww9908.png

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                                      #24
                                      I find it kind of interesting that both in 2018 and 2021 it was two of the earliest T7s with sequential LN’s (2018 was LN5 N772UA and yesterday was LN4 N773UA) both with the starboard side engine having the same/very similar issue
                                      Ross McDonagh
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                                        #25
                                        It would be cool if PMDG can simulate an engine explosion as a failure
                                        Paul Gugliotta

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                                          #26
                                          Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                                          It would be cool if PMDG can simulate an engine explosion as a failure
                                          I seriously doubt Boeing would be too happy with that. That's why all the engine fire simulations are just warnings and systems related rather than with any visual effects.
                                          Captain Kevin

                                          Kevin Yang

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                                            #27
                                            Damn lawyers
                                            Paul Gugliotta

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                                            • DDowns
                                              DDowns commented
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                                              It's not just the legal Paul,..... aviation industry as a whole tries very hard to earn the trust of the customer most of the time. It's not just the airline covering up their logo on a burned and broken shell of an aircraft. It goes deeper than that. Even the pilot and crew uniforms are there to instill confidence. We certainly don't need the media hype discovering that they can portray and engine explosion on a PC simulator. Ugh... ugly.

                                            • micstatic
                                              micstatic commented
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                                              very good point dan

                                            #28
                                            Originally posted by CaptainGabe View Post
                                            Convinced that the 777 is unstoppable. Glad everyone was okay both in the air and on the ground.
                                            I dispatched OZ 271/272 777 service ICN/SEA/ICN IRL in 2006/07. The 777 is very dispatch reliable. It would be awesome if RSR would include a CDL/MEL manual to demonstrate how much can be broke and yet this aircraft will still fly.
                                            Randall Smith KGFK PMDG 747 400/800 QOS 737NGXu and GFO BETA Team.Asus 390-E MOBO / 16GB DDR 3200 RAM/ Arctic CPU Cooler / Intel I7 9700K CPU and EVGA RTX 2070 Super GPU

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                                            • Yoshua
                                              Yoshua commented
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                                              You probably dispatched the flight I flew on cause I flew on the OZ 777 from SEA to ICN and back when going to Vietnam.

                                            #29
                                            Originally posted by Paulyg123 View Post
                                            It would be cool if PMDG can simulate an engine explosion as a failure
                                            This most likely won't happen. It has been mentioned before that Boeing won't let PMDG show a failure like this
                                            Whoops. Captain Kevin had the same thought a few posts earlier
                                            Last edited by DrJ1; 21Feb2021, 23:41.
                                            Michael Sill

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                                              #30
                                              Originally posted by rsmith6621a View Post

                                              The 777 is very dispatch reliable.
                                              Yes I was a dispatcher for NH before moving to another position and absolutely agree. The redundancy and performance is just unparalleled compared to anything else out there.
                                              Gabriel Guzman- IAH "Never stop flying the plane."
                                              My ANA 777 fleet project

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                                              • Michael Codd
                                                Michael Codd commented
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                                                The introduction of ETOPS had a lot to do with the overall improvement in aircraft and engine reliability, but it also contributed towards the decline in three and four engined aircraft.
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